Well,
operating a New subforum in Sgforums definitely gives us (Sam, F1taxidriver & me) some pressure.
Limo Forum is like a baby to us,
we want to see it grow,
we want to see forumers come in and share,
we want to see that we produce quality discussions.
Originally posted by Sam.seah:We want to share what we know about a lesser known trade.
We also aim to change the culture of locals, let the experience a limo culture like the Angmo country.
Would you want to arrive to your prom, d & d in a limo? Or just in a normal taxi?
There are many ways to impress your friends and associates, consider a limo!
hahaha u gotta be kidding right? No pax or consumer will visit these threads.
All you are gonna get are peepin toms digging for info in the comfort of their arm chairs while u all just give free info.
sorry im not pouring cold water but thats just how it is.
Do the right thing . Do an elaborate website , standby a pool of drivers ( your very own kakis) .
I can even be a part shareholder in this venture. And from the hours of 4 pm to 10 pm , i can even be your controller , reservations officer all thrown into one.
JDI and me discussed before but never took off coz of some stupid limo rules.
Now thats how u reach out to consumers :D
Originally posted by Sam.seah:BCL, how you know I do not have an elaborate website? How you know I do not have a pool of drivers?
I am not the type to hao Lian or set up forum to advertise my number or recruit new members.
Just to share with you, do you know that I can get a Maxi/high roof/Chrysler/Alphard in 5-15mins at most 25 mins? I never say does not mean I can't do.
I am just try to share that there are many possibilities for the limo drivers, their mindset is just to fetch tourists and business visitors, have they thought of proms, d & d and etc?
No problem about digging info, as I mentioned, even if they start a new business t take our business, you think we will run road? Our business will still be there. Just take hotel for example, after MBS and RWS open, the other hotel in Singapore got run road?
Must have an open mind, competition is always there and it will make us strive to do better...
To add, I got money to burn, I do not need any shareholder. Thanks for the offer though...
Originally posted by Bo Call Liao:Do the right thing . Do an elaborate website , standby a pool of drivers ( your very own kakis) .
I can even be a part shareholder in this venture. And from the hours of 4 pm to 10 pm , i can even be your controller , reservations officer all thrown into one.
JDI and me discussed before but never took off coz of some stupid limo rules.
Now thats how u reach out to consumers :D
Wa BCL thanks for cuming. Are u suggesting we start something like Limo View ? And u volunteer to be octopus (controller) ? Wait next door throw parang how ?
But seriously we needed an association of pte combis to come together to eradicate this $30 or $35 transfers. We need a body of members who will quote nothing less than CDG prices. 13-seater hiroof rates should be 1.5 - 2 times maxicab fare.
There are too many limo drivers, many limo websites, but no standardisation of rates. Undercutting the market to earn a living is not the right way.
Originally posted by f1taxidriver:Wa BCL thanks for cuming. Are u suggesting we start something like Limo View ? And u volunteer to be octopus (controller) ? Wait next door throw parang how ?
But seriously we needed an association of pte combis to come together to eradicate this $30 or $35 transfers. We need a body of members who will quote nothing less than CDG prices. 13-seater hiroof rates should be 1.5 - 2 times maxicab fare.
There are too many limo drivers, many limo websites, but no standardisation of rates. Undercutting the market to earn a living is not the right way.
I agree 4 hands with F1, currently, there are people who like to slash rates, I don't know why.
There are already a group of FT doing this trade, the can buy 3 or 4 vehicles and the slash like nobod business, the very hungry but they can't last long.
Imagine, they put their rates at $30,35, they have good business, a lot of consumer want them cause they are cheap.
But, most of the time, the are too busy that they cannot wash their car, they are frequently late and so many other factors.
Also, they have so much business that they want to throw out, they call Star, call CityMaxi or call whichever group, 30cents,35 cents, ask them go fly kite, their pax waiting half an hour for them lor... See shiok or not?
Originally posted by Sam.seah:I agree 4 hands with F1, currently, there are people who like to slash rates, I don't know why.
There are already a group of FT doing this trade, the can buy 3 or 4 vehicles and the slash like nobod business, the very hungry but they can't last long.
Imagine, they put their rates at $30,35, they have good business, a lot of consumer want them cause they are cheap.
But, most of the time, the are too busy that they cannot wash their car, they are frequently late and so many other factors.
Also, they have so much business that they want to throw out, they call Star, call CityMaxi or call whichever group, 30cents,35 cents, ask them go fly kite, their pax waiting half an hour for them lor... See shiok or not?
Eventually, those FT will learn.
When a person are paying for a limo, it is not the price as the main factor.
What happen when Chanel or LV bags are selling at $99 for their latest season collection.........
Singapore practice Open Trade. Market Force will determine Price. (sadly this does not apply to Taxi Trade).
Let those Cheap Rate driver filter away your unwanted business, let those Cheap Customer occupy their time.
Originally posted by Bo Call Liao:hahaha u gotta be kidding right? No pax or consumer will visit these threads.
All you are gonna get are peepin toms digging for info in the comfort of their arm chairs while u all just give free info.
Bro BCL, nothing is impossible...
Allow us to have our own vision and decide what is the best for this newly founded Limo subforum.
Only time will tell.
The "next door" subforum have been around for more than 8-9 years. We are only around for less than 2 weeks... what can you expect to see in such short time ?
Every subforums or even the main Sgforums will have it's agenda in place. What to do 1st, followed by 2nd & third... & etc.
Tries after tries, only deemed unsuccessful will then be discarded. Are we in the rush to built something in a limited time space ? No ! We have at least 8-9 years to do that .... even "next door" don't seems "successful" after such a long period.
Originally posted by OptimalTrans:Singapore practice Open Trade. Market Force will determine Price. (sadly this does not apply to Taxi Trade).
Let those Cheap Rate driver filter away your unwanted business, let those Cheap Customer occupy their time.
Market forces is like vulgar language to me. I get upset with this filthy word.
Our government use gebiz to award cleaning or HDB construction projects. It was never stated that cleaners should be paid a minimum of $1500 a month. For HDB, it was never their intention to let the contractors profit too much. I heard those people installing electrical casings for HDB dun make any profit at all...
So is market force about opening the doors to massive numbers of foreigners and squeezing our incomes ? Was market forces at work when the rates of our water, electricity and gas were determined ? Why dun they let foreigners come in and pipe cheap water, electricity and gas to us ?
When zhenghu says market force is at work, we know someone is playing mickey mouse with us.
Originally posted by f1taxidriver:Market forces is like vulgar language to me. I get upset with this filthy word.
Our government use gebiz to award cleaning or HDB construction projects. It was never stated that cleaners should be paid a minimum of $1500 a month. For HDB, it was never their intention to let the contractors profit too much. I heard those people installing electrical casings for HDB dun make any profit at all...
So is market force about opening the doors to massive numbers of foreigners and squeezing our incomes ? Was market forces at work when the rates of our water, electricity and gas were determined ? Why dun they let foreigners come in and pipe cheap water, electricity and gas to us ?
When zhenghu says market force is at work, we know someone is playing mickey mouse with us.
so next time if i want to be rude to you, i don't have to knn, ccb you, just Market Force you.
Apparently, you know well the format of obtaining government business, but yet to enlighten in benefiting from it.Those can benefit from it will usually stay in silent, because there is cruetly, heartless and somehow illegal.
We do not like competition, esp. from foreigner, cheaper foreigner. Since it is an already an Open Door policy, we can only learn to benefit from it. Imagine we have a group outing, family outing...... go and enjoy those $30 per trip, it even cheaper then Taxi or even Bus and MRT.
Even coffee shop uncles know how to raise coffee prices. But some limo uncles prefer to cut prices.
I cut prices before. I can irritate many many limo uncles by giving $35 airport transfers. Lets see who die first. But I stopped it for goodness sake.
Originally posted by f1taxidriver:Even coffee shop uncles know how to raise coffee prices. But some limo uncles prefer to cut prices.
I cut prices before. I can irritate many many limo uncles by giving $35 airport transfers. Lets see who die first. But I stopped it for goodness sake.
Small cars maybe.....35pts rate still sustainable.
But Maxi or Pte Vito = Dun call me, I will call you.
Originally posted by f1taxidriver:Even coffee shop uncles know how to raise coffee prices. But some limo uncles prefer to cut prices.
I cut prices before. I can irritate many many limo uncles by giving $35 airport transfers. Lets see who die first. But I stopped it for goodness sake.
薄利多销 is a common rule in Business.
But after 薄利, there must be rooms for 多销
To compete in advertisement, people can even publish at $20 rate, there are ways to recope the difference, it's only who can come out a more rational excuse.
Such tactic are common in Singapore, guess many of us here are experiencing it.
To deal with it, we got to have Principle and consistence on it, follow by.........
Wow, I like to talk about rates.
$35 for an arrival at 730am to Ritz Carlton Hotel
Assuming$3.00 goes to your parking
ERP at Fort Rd at 800am at $6.00
ERP at SUntec at $3.75
Diesel from tow (empty)n to go up to airport and airport back to town $8
Total running cost is $21, how about your road tax, insurance, servicing, depreciation and what about your salary?
If we look at it, do $35 is making a loss and doing for free.... Whahahahaha
woah woah .... i seem like im entering a hornet's nest now.
Sam seah u said that u wanna change the culture , quote
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We also aim to change the culture of locals, let the experience a limo culture like the Angmo country.
Would you want to arrive to your prom, d & d in a limo? Or just in a normal taxi?
There are many ways to impress your friends and associates, consider a limo!'
Thru this forum???
And i suggested a website with your own drivers so that u can well err attempt to change the culture and then!
i get this la that la. hahaha.
Simply said , you dont wish to do jobs with 'suicide rates' , then you should explore the possibility of going straight to the source.
Am i not right in suggestin having a website? Oh and if your hands are full , i can always lend a helping hand since i cho bo for 3/4 of my days. alamak like that tio liao ... haizzzz
Its not about startin something like limo view, you have an issue with the low rates , then something has to be done in relation to the source.
I hardly think setting up a forum here can change anything :D
Originally posted by Just_do_it_lah:Bro BCL, nothing is impossible...
Allow us to have our own vision and decide what is the best for this newly founded Limo subforum.
Only time will tell.
The "next door" subforum have been around for more than 8-9 years. We are only around for less than 2 weeks... what can you expect to see in such short time ?
Every subforums or even the main Sgforums will have it's agenda in place. What to do 1st, followed by 2nd & third... & etc.
Tries after tries, only deemed unsuccessful will then be discarded. Are we in the rush to built something in a limited time space ? No ! We have at least 8-9 years to do that .... even "next door" don't seems "successful" after such a long period.
The subforum next door has been around 8 to 9 years yes. has anything changed?
Other than getting a bunch of newbies in to come in and add on to the very crowded market , policies has not been changed 1 bit.
There is a difference between being idealistic and practical.
But JDI bro , it seems your owner isnt very receptive to criticisms coz the moment someone speaks out , he will bring out his credentials and capabilities haha.
For that , i think i better jump back to other side and suan my prata man friend coz at the end of the day , when i and him bump into one another , its a round of chit chat + kopi.
sorry its not criticisms , its suggestions :D
Originally posted by Sam.seah:Wow, I like to talk about rates.
$35 for an arrival at 730am to Ritz Carlton Hotel
Assuming$3.00 goes to your parking
ERP at Fort Rd at 800am at $6.00
ERP at SUntec at $3.75
Diesel from tow (empty)n to go up to airport and airport back to town $8
Total running cost is $21, how about your road tax, insurance, servicing, depreciation and what about your salary?
If we look at it, do $35 is making a loss and doing for free.... Whahahahaha
You are a honest man, making a honest living.
The rate can be :
Airport Tranfer - $35
To CBD surcharge - $5
(even to housing can also $5)
Fuel surcharge - $5
Luggage handling fees - $5
Total $50 + 7% GST ($3.50) = $53.50 excluding ERP
There are more reason to add in, it up to the Driver's mercy when pax on board.
Nothing wrong for Pte Limo
Complaint?
For Taxi, the fares is regulated, but also can give excuses to collect more before confirmation of job, advertisement had gone its job when people called.
In the end, is it really "Cheap"?
Let the payee decide