Originally posted by Samuel Lee:Then what does a commuter rail means?
You can find this on Wikipedia.
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:With the reference of Singapore Train forums that had a Cert 038 KTM issue, what is that actually, and does that mean there are at least 37 other certs for other purpose (Cert 01 - 037) or whatever (Cert 039 - ??)
Cert 038 gives you authority to walk on the tracks. You have to take a 2-year course at the Malaysian Railway Academy to obtain it. On whether there are other certificates, I am not sure.
Originally posted by NickLim™:Cert 038 gives you authority to walk on the tracks. You have to take a 2-year course at the Malaysian Railway Academy to obtain it. On whether there are other certificates, I am not sure.
Why is there such a course, if that has no link to become part of staff.
BTW, do one have to go Malaysia to obtain it?
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:Why is there such a course, if that has no link to become part of staff.
BTW, do one have to go Malaysia to obtain it?
If you wanna be an Operations staff, you have to go for that course.
Yes, at Batu Gajah.
Nick, I heard that KTM has a loco from India.
Now India has its broad gauge. Was the loco regauged?
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Nick, I heard that KTM has a loco from India.
Now India has its broad gauge. Was the loco regauged?
KTM operates YDM4 locomotives.
Actually you can see what locomotives are for what kind by the letters and numbering. Broad Gauge is Wxx# where x is a letter and # is a number.
So for the YDM4:
Gauge: Y : Meter Gauge
Motive Power: D: Diesel
Usage: M: Mixed
4: Fourth type
The locos were not regauged. Instead IRCON had too many of them, they decided to lease them. The ones in Malaysia are all of the 6000 series.
Originally posted by NickLim™:KTM operates YDM4 locomotives.
Actually you can see what locomotives are for what kind by the letters and numbering. Broad Gauge is Wxx# where x is a letter and # is a number.
So for the YDM4:
Gauge: Y : Meter Gauge
Motive Power: D: Diesel
Usage: M: Mixed
4: Fourth typeThe locos were not regauged. Instead IRCON had too many of them, they decided to lease them. The ones in Malaysia are all of the 6000 series.
There is broad and meter gauge in India then?
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:There is broad and meter gauge in India then?
Broad, Meter and Narrow gauges. For Narrow, there are 1 feet and 2 feet gauges.
Originally posted by NickLim™:Broad, Meter and Narrow gauges. For Narrow, there are 1 feet and 2 feet gauges.
So for most of India, it is broad gauge? Intercity trains run on Broad gauge, or metre?
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:So for most of India, it is broad gauge? Intercity trains run on Broad gauge, or metre?
Yeah. The most predominant gauge is the broad gauge, which has 96,851km of track length and 51,082km of route-kilometre.
Oh by the way, Malaysia has overhead catenary right? What is the voltage set to?
Would it be possible if this scenario, where for instance German DB Deutsche Bahn decides to sell KTM used locos and trainsets(ICE1, ICE2), and the EMU(ICE3 early few sets)? By simply regauging the trains, would they be possible to run in M'sia?
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Oh by the way, Malaysia has overhead catenary right? What is the voltage set to?
Would it be possible if this scenario, where for instance German DB Deutsche Bahn decides to sell KTM used locos and trainsets(ICE1, ICE2), and the EMU(ICE3 early few sets)? By simply regauging the trains, would they be possible to run in M'sia?
Not too sure about the voltage. Will try to source info.
But if KTM receives ICEs, it will be really pointless. The maximum operating speed while sharing the line with Komuter is 120km/h, as really pushing the limits. Outside of the Komuter areas, the speed limit is 140km/h operating speed. 160km/h emergency. The limit of the rails is 200km/h.
Originally posted by NickLim™:Not too sure about the voltage. Will try to source info.
But if KTM receives ICEs, it will be really pointless. The maximum operating speed while sharing the line with Komuter is 120km/h, as really pushing the limits. Outside of the Komuter areas, the speed limit is 140km/h operating speed. 160km/h emergency. The limit of the rails is 200km/h.
Voltage for catenary wire of KTM Komuter is 25,000V/25kV.
Besides that, metre gauge, I doubt it can run at high speed. 120km/h already look very unstable onboard the loco.
Originally posted by Interception_7:Voltage for catenary wire of KTM Komuter is 25,000V/25kV.
Besides that, metre gauge, I doubt it can run at high speed. 120km/h already look very unstable onboard the loco.
If it is 25kV, then it is French standard. The Germanic lands use 15kV(Austria, Germany, Switzerland)...
French locos? Metre gauge can run up to 200kmph safely. It probably is just the loco that generates the instability(rarefaction of rear carriages). Tilting trains would help a lot in this situation. Italian Pendolinos?
Originally posted by Interception_7:Voltage for catenary wire of KTM Komuter is 25,000V/25kV.
Besides that, metre gauge, I doubt it can run at high speed. 120km/h already look very unstable onboard the loco.
82 class on Rawang-Rasa shuttle last time 120km/h shiok haha. ETS will get 140km/h operating speed limit, although while testing they got it up to 161 or something.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:If it is 25kV, then it is French standard. The Germanic lands use 15kV(Austria, Germany, Switzerland)...
French locos? Metre gauge can run up to 200kmph safely. It probably is just the loco that generates the instability(rarefaction of rear carriages). Tilting trains would help a lot in this situation. Italian Pendolinos?
But Pendolino like got a lot of problems leh, sometimes some coaches won't tilt. Anyway they've got ETS already, or Electric Train Sets from your country.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:If it is 25kV, then it is French standard. The Germanic lands use 15kV(Austria, Germany, Switzerland)...
French locos? Metre gauge can run up to 200kmph safely. It probably is just the loco that generates the instability(rarefaction of rear carriages). Tilting trains would help a lot in this situation. Italian Pendolinos?
But Pendolino like got a lot of problems leh, sometimes some coaches won't tilt. Anyway they've got ETS already, or Electric Train Sets from your country.
Originally posted by NickLim™:82 class on Rawang-Rasa shuttle last time 120km/h shiok haha. ETS will get 140km/h operating speed limit, although while testing they got it up to 161 or something.
Cool, but that all depends on track conditions though. Don't tell me want to have 120km/h from Gemas to Tumpat. That'll be the best day of my life.
Originally posted by Interception_7:
Cool, but that all depends on track conditions though. Don't tell me want to have 120km/h from Gemas to Tumpat. That'll be the best day of my life.
Nah. But from Padang Besar to Johor Bahru next time can.
Originally posted by NickLim™:But Pendolino like got a lot of problems leh, sometimes some coaches won't tilt. Anyway they've got ETS already, or Electric Train Sets from your country.
True... Pendolinos do have a bit of problems...
I don't think there are many manufacturers who produces locos, carriages, or EMUs for metre gauge right?
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:True... Pendolinos do have a bit of problems...
I don't think there are many manufacturers who produces locos, carriages, or EMUs for metre gauge right?
Only the bogies are affected what.
Originally posted by NickLim™:Only the bogies are affected what.
Nope.
You must also consider the facts that carriages are wider in standard gauge/broad gauge compared to narrow gauges(metre gauge and cape gauge).
Centre-balance must be very carefully calculated.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Nope.
You must also consider the facts that carriages are wider in standard gauge/broad gauge compared to narrow gauges(metre gauge and cape gauge).
Centre-balance must be very carefully calculated.
Well, KTM's Blue Tiger locomotives were originally for standard gauge. Singapore MRT trains have the width of a broad gauge train (3.2m, while broad gauge uses 3.25m-wide coaches).
I was just thinking...
Is it feasible, if when SMRT decides to sell of their C151s, would it be possible to regauge them to metre gauge and sell to KTMB?
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:I was just thinking...
Is it feasible, if when SMRT decides to sell of their C151s, would it be possible to regauge them to metre gauge and sell to KTMB?
No. First of all, the coaches would be too wide to fit into their platforms. KTM uses overhead catenary wires for electrification while SMRT uses third rail. They also have an operating speed of 80km/h, max 100km/h which is too slow for the railway up there.