Railway Questions: Asia
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Ask anything about Asian railways here, excluding current Singapore railways. Questions regarding Singapore-Kranji Railway welcomed here. Constructive questions only.
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I'd like to learn more abt the Singapore - Kranji railway..
Does it have any connections with the KTM line?
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bump to monitor topic.
also, jap and HK and thai and m'sia topics reroute here ornot?
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Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
bump to monitor topic.
also, jap and HK and thai and m'sia topics reroute here ornot?
That one is information only. Random questions can be posted here, but if they have questions relating to the info posted (ie. "quotable"), then they can post there or here.
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Erm, I have a question, is that if a cross-country railways have built (Via any 2 different countries), then is it possible to have railways that uses different gauges on the same route? (Maybe Sector A uses Standard, and Sector B uses narrow, and the train can go all Sector A and B)
And since, this is Asia railway question thread, I would ask one thing about the HK railways.
For some, if not all of the HK MTR lines are uses overhead cantary wires to power, does that mean if the above ground sector is experiencing Heavy Rain with thunder, then most likely the service will be disrupted, given that Singapore MRT did have cases that the signals on the above ground sector was struck by lightning and spoilt and thus a delay occured? What will happen to the passengers inside the affected train then?
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Seldom does a country's narrow gauge railways cross into another country's territory.
Narrow gauge is usually used domestically for short distances. If necessary, just change trains lorh!But it is possible to have a line which is possible to have 1435mm and 1067mm gauges. A very clear example is that of our SMRT EW and NS lines. There seems to be narrow gauge tracks, shorter than the standard one used by the train itself. The diagram below shows how it is done. With overhead catenary in European countries, powering the train isn't the issue over the carriage and loco size(since the catenary is big to draw the power instead of third rail).
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
Erm, I have a question, is that if a cross-country railways have built (Via any 2 different countries), then is it possible to have railways that uses different gauges on the same route? (Maybe Sector A uses Standard, and Sector B uses narrow, and the train can go all Sector A and B)
Cross-country, not so. But you can find dual-gauge railways in Japan to suit 2 different gauges.
Some countries practice change of trains at the border crossing station. For other through-trains iirc China to Mongolia, a change of bogies can be done.
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Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
But it is possible to have a line which is possible to have 1435mm and 1067mm gauges. A very clear example is that of our SMRT EW and NS lines. There seems to be narrow gauge tracks, shorter than the standard one used by the train itself.
That's the guard rail, to catch the wheel in case of a derailment.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
That's the guard rail, to catch the wheel in case of a derailment.
which i believe, is a different loading gauge.
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Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
which i believe, is a different loading gauge.
Nah, that one no need to be a fixed gauge, since no trains will run on it. Some metros and light rails substitute the guard rail with concrete slabs instead.
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Those are guard rails which prevents the train from toppling over when derailed.
No fixed gauge, no specific gauge. If like that, the stretch which has no guard rail, how train go there
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
For some, if not all of the HK MTR lines are uses overhead cantary wires to power, does that mean if the above ground sector is experiencing Heavy Rain with thunder, then most likely the service will be disrupted, given that Singapore MRT did have cases that the signals on the above ground sector was struck by lightning and spoilt and thus a delay occured? What will happen to the passengers inside the affected train then?
So far I have not heard of any case of a service distruption of a train system running with overhead catenary wires due to a short circuit due to weather. Japan's Shinkansen has been running for more than 40 years with overhead catenary wires with zero incidents, excluding minor distruptions due to earthquakes.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
So far I have not heard of any case of a service distruption of a train system running with overhead catenary wires due to a short circuit due to weather. Japan's Shinkansen has been running for more than 40 years with overhead catenary wires with zero incidents, excluding minor distruptions due to earthquakes.
O, maybe I forgot that the wires on top got the lightning conductor.
(..... The reason why I asked on service disruption is becoz there is similar example in Singapore..... I do noe I am in International Railway Forums........)
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
well, yesterday BPLRT got similar incident, but it is a 3rd rail on the middle of the tracks.
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Originally posted by Interception_7:
I'd like to learn more abt the Singapore - Kranji railway..
Does it have any connections with the KTM line?
You may like to visit http://searail.mymalaya.com/Singapore/SRhistory.htm.
The current KTM line involves the stretch from Bukit Timah Junction to just before Woodlands Train Checkpoint, and the platform length of Tanjung Pagar Railway Station. Before this, the route was from Tank Road through People's Park, turning right to Tanjong Pagar and left to Pasir Panjang, following the present Keppel Road, not the current route from Tanjung Pagar through Bukit Merah to Tanglin Halt and then Bukit Timah Railway Station.
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Before that, is the PSA line connected to the TGP line? I heard there is a gate crossing between the TGP Yard and the PSA.
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Originally posted by Interception_7:
Before that, is the PSA line connected to the TGP line? I heard there is a gate crossing between the TGP Yard and the PSA.
Define PSA lol. It runs all the way to Jurong iirc.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
Define PSA lol. It runs all the way to Jurong iirc.
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Originally posted by Interception_7:
Port of Singapore Authority. Haha.Yeah there is. Last time there was no AYE so no problem.
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Oh well, what are the major differences in Bangkok BTS and Bangkok MRT (Saw on Nick Lim's webpage in his profile)?
Or rather rephrase it in this way, is it the Thailand version of KCRC and the MTR?
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
Oh well, what are the major differences in Bangkok BTS and Bangkok MRT (Saw on Nick Lim's webpage in his profile)?
Or rather rephrase it in this way, is it the Thailand version of KCRC and the MTR?
I wouldn't say that, since KCRC started as a commuter rail. BTS is overground and MRT is underground to make things simple. Signalling and rolling stock is similar though. I would say it's like the Singapore East West and North South Lines versus the North East Line, minus the shared paid areas i.e. tap out and tap in again at interchange.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
I wouldn't say that, since KCRC started as a commuter rail. BTS is overground and MRT is underground to make things simple. Signalling and rolling stock is similar though. I would say it's like the Singapore East West and North South Lines versus the North East Line, minus the shared paid areas i.e. tap out and tap in again at interchange.
Oh I see, thanks for the clarification. And is KTM a commuter rail in Singapore / Malaysia version of it?
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
Oh I see, thanks for the clarification. And is KTM a commuter rail in Singapore / Malaysia version of it?
Huh? In the entire network, KTM operates intercity services. Between Seremban and Rawang, Rawang and Tanjung Malim, and Pelabuhan Klang and Sentul, they offer commuter services.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
Huh? In the entire network, KTM operates intercity services. Between Seremban and Rawang, Rawang and Tanjung Malim, and Pelabuhan Klang and Sentul, they offer commuter services.
Then what does a commuter rail means?
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With the reference of Singapore Train forums that had a Cert 038 KTM issue, what is that actually, and does that mean there are at least 37 other certs for other purpose (Cert 01 - 037) or whatever (Cert 039 - ??)