Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Since the boy is old enough to make the decision to quit.
He must have accepted that his decision is his making and its his future.
There is enough folks here, that even with one finger each, will squash him to the ground should he later try to whine about that decision.
I wish him all the best.
he's not old enough to make decisions like that for himself.
he's unaware of the repercussions that will follow this move.
but nvm now. natural selection.
i respect ur decision if u r not the study type...
but do be like bill gate liddat, and comeback to sgf~
and showoff
Originally posted by ispyyy:Scold you? why scold you?
Every1,including me, is bound to waste some time in their life. There are just somethings that you have to learn thru experience. Who knows? The path that you will find could be a better path.
But for heaven sake, whatever it is, please please please please please please dont whine, blame, complain or give up in the future. You just learn nothing from that... :p
Well... I remember some1 said tat u r like me so I trust that you are no such such such such person above. You will be fine...
Let's muahahahahahaaa 2gether...
Thanks ispyyy...
Someone told me something today...
Whether you can do it or not, depends on how hungry you want it...
Another person told me today... Weichong... The whole world can support and believe you with your decision... But if you don't believe in yourself, you will fail...
However... The whold world can disagree with me and don't believe i can make it, but i believe i can make it, there is nothing there to stop me from success, only hinderance...
Originally posted by popikachu:O lvl is a paper to let you enter your next study, not a cert in my eyes ^^
and NS, sign on? I rather work in all sort of odd jobs all kind of jobs learning new things... ^^
U may say "work in all sort of odd jobs all kind of jobs learning new things" but it's tiring. My cousin was like that too... He switch from F&B to tourism to business. Now, cannot find job that he really likes, ends up slacking at home play games, waiting for his phone to ring. Hope you dun end up like him. U can try out a varierty of jobs but hope you can settle down fast and earn a good and honest living from there. Qualifications may be secondary, hence you must show to your boss that you are keen to learn and willing to take up challenges along the way and not give up at the slightest setback.
next is sign on SAF lo...
Originally posted by soleachip:what is done can be undone at this point, u can write a letter of appeal to school, find a part time job that gives u flexible hours, make pocket money, drag ur haversack and ur ass to school, fall asleep in the bus, find a nice corner in campus, smoke in the toilet, there's so much freedom and possibilities in school, y do u want to Give It All Up, get drafted into NS prematurely at this point?
my observation is this - this whole quitting bullshit is a character flaw that needs 2 b corrected during the formative years of ur life - Right Now.
if u think u're buying an experience in school given ur background and circumstances, u're making a mistake. u need to buy a result. that result is improving ur character, ur determination and later on, achieving something u started. this leads to an improved quality life for urself and ur folks.
this is not about a piece of paper or defining urself with a diploma. it's about molding ur own character.
Nope, i quit not because of situation around me, cus it mere excuse and not a real reason...
Originally posted by lianamaster:U may say "work in all sort of odd jobs all kind of jobs learning new things" but it's tiring. My cousin was like that too... He switch from F&B to tourism to business. Now, cannot find job that he really likes, ends up slacking at home play games, waiting for his phone to ring. Hope you dun end up like him. U can try out a varierty of jobs but hope you can settle down fast and earn a good and honest living from there. Qualifications may be secondary, hence you must show to your boss that you are keen to learn and willing to take up challenges along the way and not give up at the slightest setback.
FnB... got nothing more for me to learn... lol
Originally posted by popikachu:FnB... got nothing more for me to learn... lol
You know...lianamaster has a point there.
You may lol here....but talk and type is easy.
Well, dude, you should be entering NS soon, and that should give you time to look further ahead and ask what you really want....because....you don't seem to have that in mind.
All the same, maybe you quit because you figured anything is better than what you are going through now. That's fine. But only because you are VERY sure of that....which frankly speaking, I don't think you are either.
But since you've come to this point, why not?
Take things as they come and not look back.
Originally posted by popikachu:FnB... got nothing more for me to learn... lol
Well, each of us have our own interests. But draw a line between reality and what really fantasizes you. I mean, if you want to earn big, then you have to start from scratch and put in a sizeable amount of effort. There's no shortcuts in life man.
Stay positive and dun comprain so much without reflecting on your own doings. No offence bcus I have met ppl who always feel they are right and everybody else is wrong. They think at a very shallow perspective and dun see the rationale of what they are doing. U shld at least have a simple goal in mind (maybe be able to pay off all your outstanding bills) so that you won't feel that work is dull and boring for you.
Hence, do work hard and all the best...
Originally posted by lianamaster:Well, each of us have our own interests. But draw a line between reality and what really fantasizes you. I mean, if you want to earn big, then you have to start from scratch and put in a sizeable amount of effort. There's no shortcuts in life man.
All the best...
Yup, there isn't a short cut in life, and i am instead walking the longer path...
Originally posted by popikachu:Yup, there isn't a short cut in life, and i am instead walking the longer path...
Longer path is perfectly fine, so long you achieve what you want can liao.
It's the result that matters more.
it's not the end of the road, really. like u said, u are taking a little bit more time. some people take one year to get there....maybe u just need a little break and take two or even three years to get there. the outcome is important, but the journey there is also important.
all the best, pika. no regrets. any experience is an experience. most importantly, we learn from whatever experience we have and take it from there.
i am glad u have a plan. perhaps, when u have a taste of the working world and your ns experience, u will return to school and who knows, u will get really motivated and inspired the next time around.
rem....aristotle said "an unexamined life is not worth living". so have a goal. search within....if u can't find it the first time, it's alright. take a break and search again. good luck and all the ver best in your new journey. and here's something for you:
Well, I've read through the 3 pages and I'm rather amused.
Quoting you:
"choose to walk the hard path... this is the consequence""complete my NS, most probably, my thinking will change in there"
"....or decide to continue earning my pathetic 1k per month"
"No regrets, for sure... I know what shits awaits me"
"whold world can disagree with me and don't believe i can make it, but i believe i can make it, there is nothing there to stop me"
"Yup, there isn't a short cut in life, and i am instead walking the longer path"
Not meaning to be rude, mate. But do you have any idea how deluded you sound?
I don't know the underlying reason for the withdrawal, but truth is... What hard path did you choose to walk? All you did was back away from a fight.
Complete NS and my thinking will change in there? Do you even buy that?
No regrets, you know what shit awaits you. Wait till you've a family and you're earning that 1k a month, then you will really know for sure that shit awaits you. It's the same vicious cycle and education is your one way ticket to get out of it.
You believe you can make it? Make what? Make cake? Faith without works is dead, talk without action is just talk. You can keep believing but fact is.. you're steering off course..
Fortunately, you still have the gift of youth to right whatever bad decisions you've made. But as you get older, life's penalties get heavier. Hopefully, after NS you will really seng mok, if not shit really awaits you.
Human life is short and precious, hope you will make the best out of it.
aiya, but from the other side, maybe u sian of study and working
everything will eventually work out in the end, just remember this bro
u now still can finish ns, and then get a diploma, or so on
and when in ns, try to chiong for higher pay, like command school
not everything in this world needs an academic cert to earn cash
use ur creativity, who knows, u might even made it bigger than us here
there are no right and wrong choices, but never sway from ur decision, go with it all the way to the end
and supper soon bro, we need to catch up, maybe u can tell me more about it
Originally posted by Detached:Well, I've read through the 3 pages and I'm rather amused.
Not meaning to be rude, mate. But do you have any idea how deluded you sound?
I don't know the underlying reason for the withdrawal, but truth is... What hard path did you choose to walk? All you did was back away from a fight.
Complete NS and my thinking will change in there? Do you even buy that?
No regrets, you know what shit awaits you. Wait till you've a family and you're earning that 1k a month, then you will really know for sure that shit awaits you. It's the same vicious cycle and education is your one way ticket to get out of it.
You believe you can make it? Make what? Make cake? Faith without works is dead, talk without action is just talk. You can keep believing but fact is.. you're steering off course..
Fortunately, you still have the gift of youth to right whatever bad decisions you've made. But as you get older, life's penalties get heavier. Hopefully, after NS you will really seng mok, if not shit really awaits you.
Human life is short and precious, hope you will make the best out of it.
lol
he has his difficulties ma
he needs to pay for his education thru his own work
work + study
he cant handle the mental struggle man
Do you think I will never log in to sgf ever again? Or you really think I will never find out?
I think I have made myself very clear the last time we spoke. If this is the way u wanna do things, alright. Don't ever regret it. You jolly well know what is coming your way if you quit school, but you still wanna walk the hard way.
There are so many ppl sharing their experiences about tetiary education, and I have shared mine too. If after seeing all these responses and you really have thought hard about it, including weighing the pros and cons, I don't think you would have made this decision. Since it's not the money, I don't understand why you want to quit? If it's the course, I think you still can appeal to change course.
I cannot ask you to undo the decision. But this is the last time I'm telling/advising you this: THINK THOROUGHLY. Your decision does not only affect you, it will cause repercussions in the future or to those around you.
Originally posted by gigabyte14:lol
he has his difficulties ma
he needs to pay for his education thru his own work
work + study
he cant handle the mental struggle man
I don't want to suan siao.
But in my poly days, I had this classmate whose dad died young and mother was in asylum. She one person worked and studied, had to pay for this and that. Graduated with a 3.7 gpa.
Can't handle is a bad excuse.
Originally posted by Detached:
I don't want to suan siao.But in my poly days, I had this classmate whose dad died young and mother was in asylum. She one person worked and studied, had to pay for this and that. Graduated with a 3.7 gpa.
Can't handle is a bad excuse.
Hey... not everyone is born for studies... although it is the best way to get the max out of the system...
Originally posted by Detached:
I don't want to suan siao.But in my poly days, I had this classmate whose dad died young and mother was in asylum. She one person worked and studied, had to pay for this and that. Graduated with a 3.7 gpa.
Can't handle is a bad excuse.
lol
but kinda true la
but giving up is hard also wat
mental endurance not enough
but cut him some slack la
everyone needs time to grow la, haha
Originally posted by caleb_chiang:
Hey... not everyone is born for studies... although it is the best way to get the max out of the system...
The emphasis is not on well her score was, but on how determined and disciplined she was.
im sure u know wad u're doing.
and u have ur reasons.
but dont regret it can liao.
Originally posted by ChoCoChips:im sure u know wad u're doing.
and u have ur reasons.
but dont regret it can liao.
yeah man
ratty, dun turn back already, just go with ur decision
Originally posted by popikachu:Nope, i quit not because of situation around me, cus it mere excuse and not a real reason...
no it's not ur situation or losing interest.
as what Detached pointed out, this is the easy way out for u. and in the end, u fuck u.
it's instant gratification. it has a 5 year shelf life for a kid like u. insouciance, on the other hand, will stick around longer, with heavier consequences.
yeah sure u got abundant choices, up down left right and middle. but in Life, the choice u make, the words u say, must remain intact, u must Deliver what u promise urself. right now u didn't. u cut urself too much slack, and in the near future, into adulthood, it becomes a Habit. u fall into a pattern.
i'm not preaching herd mentality to u - get a diploma, a degree and u'll survive in Singapore bullshit.
but leaving school is too big a decision to make without u being Resolved in ur own mind.
right now, u don't even know what u're gonna do before u even do it. that's half measure. that's a whole lotta weak will.
right now u can say, in the future i will do this. but become what? what future? one day ur folks will depend on u to bring home the bacon. put food on the table.
get some perspective.
don't build the life u seek on poor foundation. for every bad move u make, the ripples spread further than u can imagine.
(and i know i know... i could care less if u label me a long winded naggy auntie).
Originally posted by tr@nsp0rt_F3V3R:i respect ur decision if u r not the study type...
but do be like bill gate liddat, and comeback to sgf~
and showoff
I'll be blunt about this: I am very, very sick and tired of people who have romantic notions over quitting higher education and pointing to Bill Gates as a (cliched) example.
Let me just say this: Bill Gates is an exception, and thousands of Tan Ah Kows and John Smiths who followed his example have burnt and gone kaput in the process.
Pika: regardless of what you may say, no, trust me, you know nothing about the consequences of your actions. You have not thought about it thoroughly. You did not consider your alternatives and options properly. I thought I told you to talk it out with your academic mentor who can surely help you work through your issues. In the worst case scenario, you could have taken a semester off to work things out. Almost anything would have been better than just quitting.
Like both soleachip and detached have pointed out, you don't even seem to have an exit strategy right now. Despite whatever romantic notions that you have about walking 'the long and hard path', the fact is that all you did was to walk off the straight and narrow path, with no firm idea of what on earth you're gonna do next.
I'm really trying my best not to nag at you, but I've seen what happened to my cousins who became the wrong sort of PhDs (poly-halfway-dropouts). Long story short, one of them eventually got tossed in the brig over gangfights.
I'm not saying that that will be your future. What I'm saying is that I don't want to see anyone else wilfully throwing away a promising future.
'Nuff said. I know that nothing I do can make you rescind your letter of withdrawal. But I do hope you will eventually wake up your ideas - sooner better than later.
This is my last posting on this matter.
nuthing much i can say, the rest have said their piece