Patrice Evra's Emmy Award Acting During Handshake
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Originally posted by Hushmatters:
What's done can't be undone.....life goes on as Kop from Singapore....just hope for the best in the coming fixtures. What do you expect to do? LOL
Anyway thanks again dude for all the comments....been a Kop for more than 4 decades ever since in my mom's womb....a little salt meant no harm....thank you for all those well wishes...
yes but then he was still unrepentent and kenny was still defending him. how could you defend the indefensible. racism is a serious problem blighting our societies, not to mention in a football match.
how does it feel when you are a black and someone insulted you a negro or black?
and from your comments, you are just like kenny, defending the indefensible and attack Evra for his acting? look, who is playing the victim here?
anyway the black players in EPL, would target Suarez. by saying Evra is a negro, he insulted all the black players in EPL and the world playing the game.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
yes but then he was still unrepentent and kenny was still defending him. how could you defend the indefensible. racism is a serious problem blighting our societies, not to mention in a football match.
how does it feel when you are a black and someone insulted you a negro or black?
and from your comments, you are just like kenny, defending the indefensible and attack Evra for his acting? look, who is playing the victim here?
anyway the black players in EPL, would target Suarez. by saying Evra is a negro, he insulted all the black players in EPL and the world playing the game.
God have mercy on Jacky Woo soul...!!!!
Shouldn't we just leave it and let nature takes its course rather trying to be the one acting as if we are in direct control of each others' club. When would all be wise enough to realise that....hey it's just how humans are and how EPL now evolves. Why can't we?
The arguments kept repeating and repeating and surfacing and resurfacing and being flamed again and again although almost every topic under Football and EPL in this SG Forums already discussed about the same issue....and yet not enough???
Never enough trying to instigate. What does it take for you to just move on with life. Or I would just say....get a life then.
What you want actually, Jacky Woo?
You need me to say ....okay Jacky Woo you won this argument and you are the best person and the best source there is in the world to judge both Liverpool and Man U?
If you really need it badly....okay then you already won. Yes Jacky Woo is the winner!!! All kudos to you...and all commentators...
But has it change anything??? Duh...
You already had your last words.
Best regards dude.
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Originally posted by Hushmatters:
God have mercy on Jacky Woo soul...!!!!
Shouldn't we just leave it and let nature takes its course rather trying to be the one acting as if we are in direct control of each others' club. When would all be wise enough to realise that....hey it's just how humans are and how EPL now evolves. Why can't we?
The arguments kept repeating and repeating and surfacing and resurfacing and being flamed again and again although almost every topic under Football and EPL in this SG Forums already discussed about the same issue....and yet not enough???
Never enough trying to instigate. What does it take for you to just move on with life. Or I would just say....get a life then.
What you want actually, Jacky Woo?
You need me to say ....okay Jacky Woo you won this argument and you are the best person and the best source there is in the world to judge both Liverpool and Man U?
If you really need it badly....okay then you already won. Yes Jacky Woo is the winner!!! All kudos to you...and all commentators...
But has it change anything??? Duh...
You already had your last words.
Best regards dude.
get a life and cant change a thing but yet you are the one who posted this thread and invited the flamings. so whats your intention when you posted this? trying to play the victim? pity you can say others, but doesnt have the cheek to look into the mirror at yourself. enough said.
funny how others can lecture but dun have the cheek to say this to oneself. how funny indeed
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
get a life and cant change a thing but yet you are the one who posted this thread and invited the flamings. so whats your intention when you posted this? trying to play the victim? pity you can say others, but doesnt have the cheek to look into the mirror at yourself. enough said.
funny how others can lecture but dun have the cheek to say this to oneself. how funny indeed
I am truly sorry for your soul....dude. God have mercy!!
You are the one that have been missing out on all the post. You brought up the post which I've already put to rest.
Firstly, have you really checked my first post which is the FIRST reply post with regard to this thread? Which I would quote below:
"The reason this topic was created because it seemed biased for not having Kop's space for consolation. Definitely not for firing squads.
You could have just gone to contribute inputs to the topics created by zocoss or yourself where all Man U supporters like you belonged."
I really appreaciate how omgukilledkenny and zocoss for his understanding and sportsmanship and for giving the space for consolation. But I don't see why Jacky Woo failed to read it.
Referring to your concern on the racism blighting our societies. I feel fortunate to have lived in Singapore and I don't get you by saying it as if all of us are living in UK. Unless this instigating stop, the virus could spread in Singapore too by irresponsible instigators.
Why instigate Liverpool fans? Man U is far better than Liverpool in current state which I as a hardcore Liverpool fan could not be intimidated even by how successful Man U could be. It's all in the traditional rivalry and so I will let it take its own course.
As a Liverpool fan defending their players regardless of what they did, it's pretty norm and which hardcore fans doesn't. But why need to instigate when Man U is far from Liverpool current situation. Why? Why still there's inferiority? Why?
If inferiority does not exist, then you ought to let it take its own course and be proud of being Man U fan...that's all.
I've said it and I say it again....I just leave it and let nature takes its course rather than trying to be the one acting as if we are in direct control of each others' club. I am not even having 1% of Liverpool profit sharing and what can I do.....definitely not instigating.
Funny it is as funny as one does it dude...
All the best dude.
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Final Score: Man Utd 2 - 1 Racist Bastards.
Not all Liverpool fans are racists, but for those who defends racism, they are the racist bastards with no proper parent teachings... someone like Suarez is one of them.
It's so sad their parents have failed them... these racist bastards really... really so sad.
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Not to mention how Liverpool's reputation and support have plunged so much over the last few months, even the PFA chairman came in to say how Suarez has not only damaged the reputation of Liverpool, but also of that of Kenny. really sad... that's what happens when you're a racist bastard.
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Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
Final Score: Man Utd 2 - 1 Racist Bastards.
Not all Liverpool fans are racists, but for those who defends racism, they are the racist bastards with no proper parent teachings... someone like Suarez is one of them.
It's so sad their parents have failed them... these racist bastards really... really so sad.
You see that Jack Woo and can you catch where I'm coming from?
Best regards dude, mate, bro etc.
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let's all kick racism out of soccer. racism does not have a place in soccer. it doesn't matter whether it's manchester united or liverpool or barcelona... it's about morals... it's about being a better person but unfortunately suarez took the low ground and shown how he's not just a racist bastard, but also an unforgiving one
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Originally posted by Hushmatters:
You see that Jack Woo and can you catch where I'm coming from?
Best regards dude, mate, bro etc.
i never go and read, coz so long... i only extremely against racism because to some people, it's just racism, small thing... but racism has involved lives before, not just in soccer in uk but also in Singapore, we used to have racist fights which many people have died and suffer in (this one u need to check sg history). Racism doesn't belong in a good world. -
Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
let's all kick racism out of soccer. racism does not have a place in soccer. it doesn't matter whether it's manchester united or liverpool or barcelona... it's about morals... it's about being a better person but unfortunately suarez took the low ground and shown how he's not just a racist bastard, but also an unforgiving one
that's what he has shown the world
yesterday.It's alright dude..DFG.
Yes I was very young that time when there was racial riots in Singapore and one my distant relative was killed and dragged by a bus. Yes of course racism do not have the space in our society. Thank you for a refresher.
But for EPL, there's nothing currently justifies racism being smartly handled so much of the (PFA) intelligence is concerned. It takes two to tango and I would prefer not to judge that "bastard" you called racist just because of his misadventure. He may be the nastiest player as he has the nerve of steel as some fans may claimed but with all his wrong doings in the past, one can't judge him by making him an auto racist just by one emotionally striked incident. Even one can prefer to argue more on that but I would insist that there's more than meets the eye.
Best regards dude.
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Originally posted by Hushmatters:
I am truly sorry for your soul....dude. God have mercy!!
You are the one that have been missing out on all the post. You brought up the post which I've already put to rest.
Firstly, have you really checked my first post which is the FIRST reply post with regard to this thread? Which I would quote below:
"The reason this topic was created because it seemed biased for not having Kop's space for consolation. Definitely not for firing squads.
You could have just gone to contribute inputs to the topics created by zocoss or yourself where all Man U supporters like you belonged."
I really appreaciate how omgukilledkenny and zocoss for his understanding and sportmanship and for giving the space for consolation. But I don't see why Jack Woo failed to read it.
Referring to your concern on the racism blighting our societies. I feel fortunate to have lived in Singapore and I don't get you by saying it as if all of us are living in UK. Unless this instigating stop, the virus could spread in Singapore too by irresponsible instigators.
Why instigate Liverpool fans? Man U is far better than Liverpool in current state which I as a hardcore Liverpool fan could not be intimidated even by how successful Man U could be. It's all in the traditional rivalry and so I will let it take its own course.
As a Liverpool fan defending their players regardless of what they did, it's pretty norm and which hardcore fans doesn't. But why need to instigate when Man U is far from Liverpool current situation. Why? Why still there's inferiority? Why?
If inferiority does not exist, then you ought to let it take its own course and be proud of being Man U fan...that's all.
I've said it and I say it again....I just leave it and let nature takes its course rather trying to be the one acting as if we are in direct control of each others' club. I am not even having 1% of Liverpool profit sharing and what can I do.....definitely not instigating.
Funny it is as funny as one does it dude...
All the best dude.
first I do not believe in god and all its nonsense, so stop the nonsense on soul and hell thingy here.
as for sportmanship, please dun misuse this word esp coming from a racist bastard and a club who condone and defending their player. this espisode really tarnishes the reputation of the club and manager.
and stop being righteous about it. you jolly well know your intentions and criticism when you posted here, so dun act innocent and play the victim card nonsense here.
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Originally posted by Hushmatters:
At least the Kop fans will be looking forward to the Carling Cup final and still in the run for the FA cup. An excellent consolation for all Kop fans..... YNWA!!
ya sure win the worthless cup and maybe the fa cup for all I care. just dun wait for the next 20 years to play in the CL again. so its a misnomer to say liverpool is a top 4 club now, cos they arent now. maybe no 6 team now after spurs and man city has usurped their position in EPL.
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Originally posted by Hushmatters:
It's alright dude..DFG.
Yes I was very young that time when there was racial riots in Singapore and one my distant relative was killed and drag by a bus. Yes of course racism do not have the space in our society. Thank you for a refresher.
But for EPL, there's nothing currently justifies racism being smartly handled so much of the (PFA) intelligence is concerned. It takes two to tango and I would prefer not to judge that "bastard" you called racist just because of his misadventure. He may be the nastiest player as he has the nerve of steel as some fans may claimed but with all his wrong doings in the past, one can't judge him by making him an auto racist just by one emotionally striked incident. Even one can prefer to argue more on that but I would insist that there's more than meets the eye.
Best regards dude.
I think Liverpool just handles the affair rather badly... if he made a mistake, owns up to it, then people would have shown alot of respect... but if made a mistake, was caught, and keep insisting he was right, then it's another thing altogether... the only stupid thing evra did was at the end when he celebrate in front of suarez. that was bad but i think in his mind he was pretty upset when suarez refuses to shake his hand. even alex ferguson said it wasn't the right thing to do for evra at the end. -
Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
I think Liverpool just handles the affair rather badly... if he made a mistake, owns up to it, then people would have shown alot of respect... but if made a mistake, was caught, and keep insisting he was right, then it's another thing altogether... the only stupid thing evra did was at the end when he celebrate in front of suarez. that was bad but i think in his mind he was pretty upset when suarez refuses to shake his hand. even alex ferguson said it wasn't the right thing to do for evra at the end.if liverpool were to win, you think Suarez will not jump in front of Evra and united fans who barracked him all match long to celebrate?
whats wrong with Evra celebrating in front of own fans, even though its done in purpose in front of Suarez. even gary neville do that when united beat liverpool years ago
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
first I do not believe in god and all its nonsense, so stop the nonsense on soul and hell thingy here.
as for sportmanship, please dun misuse this word esp coming from a racist bastard and a club who condone and defending their player. this espisode really tarnishes the reputation of the club and manager.
and stop being righteous about it. you jolly well know your intentions and criticism when you posted here, so dun act innocent and play the victim card nonsense here.
Even you don't believed in God that doesn't mean you have all the right to foul mouthed those who has the faith. Your actions does not justify your own belief (against racism).
Sportsmanship does not applied to just sports. Here, it's how you approach a dialogue of discussion. For you it seemed to be a monologue.
I could agree some of the things with Man U being better situation than Liverpool. But you insist on having your own opinion along with inciting hatred and criticism against Liverpool unnecessarily and I've already let you have it. Now what?!!
And this thread was actually meant for Kops to seek consolation. Who are you to say what I shall not or shall do??!!!!
Played what victim here???? How many times did I criticised your opinion??!!! How many times you try similar act of contempt???
I am not sure how you were raised but that doesn't mean you could treat anyone without respect merely because we don't share the same opinion. That's the worst colour ever shown!!!
Is it wrong to be righteous regardless of faith or no faith??? I'm putting a thread for Kops and it's definitely not a mandatory for you to participate. But at least if you do, please exercise some courtesy to discuss issues humanely and not by beginning with inciting hatred and curses by portraying to be a numbskull.
I believed we are all well educated for crying out loud!!
I do visit some Man U motivated thread, I don't just dived in and incite hatred or personal criticism because I am aware that it could make things worse.
So get your stuff somewhere else!!!! You are not welcome in my thread if you insist to be ignorant. You already even started your own thread and why not you just managed your own thread and I managed mine!!!
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Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has today issued the following apology:
"I have spoken with the manager since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.
"I've not only let him down, but also the Club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.
"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.
"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.
"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.
"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.
"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."
Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish today insisted Luis Suarez is right to apologise for failing to shake Patrice Evra's hand at Old Trafford.
"Ian Ayre has made the Club's position absolutely clear and it is right that Luis Suarez has now apologised for what happened at Old Trafford," said Dalglish.
"To be honest, I was shocked to hear that the player had not shaken hands having been told earlier in the week that he would do.
"But as Ian said earlier, all of us have a responsibility to represent this Club in a fit and proper manner and that applies equally to me as Liverpool manager.
"When I went on TV after yesterday's game I hadn't seen what had happened, but I did not conduct myself in a way befitting of a Liverpool manager during that interview and I'd like to apologise for that."
(Latest source from Liverpoolfc.tv)
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You are a bloody disgrace to be a liverpool fan. Guess you are such a kop wannabe because you haven't seen john barnes play before. Oh, don't think you even know who he is.
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We could see pigs fly after all.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
You are a bloody disgrace to be a liverpool fan. Guess you are such a kop wannabe because you haven't seen john barnes play before. Oh, don't think you even know who he is.
Who are you again? Please.
Don't start it again dude. Please go through all the posts before making such statement in my thread.
Best regards.
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Originally posted by Hushmatters:
Who are you again? Please.
Don't start it again dude. Please go through all the posts before making such statement in my thread.
Best regards.
Who I am doesn't matter. I'm just here to have a go at you. And anyone can enter and exit your thread, it's not up to you. Cheers.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Who I am doesn't matter. I'm just here to have a go at you. And anyone can enter and exit your thread, it's not up to you. Cheers.
Have a go at me....what do you think I am... punching bag?
True anyone can enter and exit but I do seek some cooperation not to be a numbskull or incite hatred or criticise unnecessarily.
We could discuss positively and constructively.
Cheers to you too.
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Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has today issued the following apology:
"I have spoken with the manager since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.
"I've not only let him down, but also the Club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.
"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.
"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.
"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.
"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.
"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."
Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish today insisted Luis Suarez is right to apologise for failing to shake Patrice Evra's hand at Old Trafford.
"Ian Ayre has made the Club's position absolutely clear and it is right that Luis Suarez has now apologised for what happened at Old Trafford," said Dalglish.
"To be honest, I was shocked to hear that the player had not shaken hands having been told earlier in the week that he would do.
"But as Ian said earlier, all of us have a responsibility to represent this Club in a fit and proper manner and that applies equally to me as Liverpool manager.
"When I went on TV after yesterday's game I hadn't seen what had happened, but I did not conduct myself in a way befitting of a Liverpool manager during that interview and I'd like to apologise for that."
(Latest source from Liverpoolfc.tv)
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On-topic: Evra's acting was definitely top notch and also, a warm round of applause for De Gea, playing the innocent public, Rio as Evra's sidekick and Suarez, the anti-hero for their respective roles.
But of all that bullshit, I like that Man Utd's back at the top of the table, given their relatively ......... recent performances.
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Originally posted by Toiletries:
On-topic: Evra's acting was definitely top notch and also, a warm round of applause for De Gea, playing the innocent public, Rio as Evra's sidekick and Suarez, the anti-hero for their respective roles.
But of all that bullshit, I like that Man Utd's back at the top of the table, given their relatively ......... recent performances.
That's about it to sum it up...though seriously. Good for Man U then.
Well, as for the Kops, we got to sort things out bit by bit. Not all Kops are happy with the team performances but we shall support the club through thick and thin. With the bullshits here and there, no Kops going to commit to any statement until it is clearly comes from the top management itself. And it just did.
So it's interesting to see the next development. And that's what I called let the nature takes its own course.
Cheers.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
if liverpool were to win, you think Suarez will not jump in front of Evra and united fans who barracked him all match long to celebrate?
whats wrong with Evra celebrating in front of own fans, even though its done in purpose in front of Suarez. even gary neville do that when united beat liverpool years ago
You don't understand... it's EPL and watched by millions all over... their actions have serious consequences... their actions can incite hatred and increase violence between the 2 sets of fans... very simple, if Suarez had shaked hands, we weren't even be here debating or arguing about the whole issue... in UK with those punks, they would probably be stabbing each other... it's serious consequences because those sets of fans look up to their idols in soccer... so heavy responsbilities comes about because they should be role models and they have to take the high moral ground... remember how "someone" criticise the referee so badly that his life was threatened and then he quit refereeing altogether? this is an example of how ones action, given their position, has serious impact after the game... and racism has to be removed at that level.