The ODEX issue - a look at Copyright Law of Japan.
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interesting read.
but with so many grey areas, its hard for an individual to contest.
hopefully some lawyer who is also an anime fan will take this case up.
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Or we could just rely on the Straits Times' media hegemony..Originally posted by stellazio:interesting read.
but with so many grey areas, its hard for an individual to contest.
hopefully some lawyer who is also an anime fan will take this case up. 
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I think chances are too low if such a person exists. Plus it isn't going to be cheap.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I think it all depends on whether any accused is willing to go to trial with a legal team that is IT "MediaSentry case" and IP-savvy, and also knows a fair bit about the Japanese legal aspect of this case. -
Hohoho..indeed..Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I think chances are too low if such a person exists. Plus it isn't going to be cheap. -
Just use Section 136 if possible and hope that no sections take precedence over this section. If somebody is going to argue about Section 38, it's very hard. Realistically, everything is possible.Originally posted by stellazio:interesting read.
but with so many grey areas, its hard for an individual to contest.
hopefully some lawyer who is also an anime fan will take this case up.
How it works out if the case ever goes to Japan, will depend on the judges' views. As many have pointed out, it has too many grey areas. -
i think andy ho, the writer who wrote this article is who knows an anime fan himself.Originally posted by stellazio:interesting read.
but with so many grey areas, its hard for an individual to contest.
hopefully some lawyer who is also an anime fan will take this case up. -
Its kind of ridiculous that only local laws apply when the owners of the copyright are largely in Japan. Unless Odex can somehow claim to be the owners of the copyright by proxy in Singapore, or is the official sole distributor of particular animes in Singapore.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Yeah... but we have to see how the case goes. Currently, only local laws apply, so a lot of people are hurt right now.
If the case could go to Japan... we may see different results.
IP laws is significantly different in application from eg. Criminal law. If I have no qualms about my intellectual property being distributed, I don't see why anyone else should be unhappy and decide to take legal action on MY Intellectual property that has been allowed to be freely distribute by the laws of my country of residence.
I hope the courts throw Odex's case out the window and fine that bugger for wasting everybody's time. -
You have a point there, but as far as we are seeing, those that have been fined and paid up the fines have the local laws applied to them.Originally posted by Shotgun:Its kind of ridiculous that only local laws apply when the owners of the copyright are largely in Japan. Unless Odex can somehow claim to be the owners of the copyright by proxy in Singapore, or is the official sole distributor of particular animes in Singapore.
IP laws is significantly different in application from eg. Criminal law. If I have no qualms about my intellectual property being distributed, I don't see why anyone else should be unhappy and decide to take legal action on MY Intellectual property that has been allowed to be freely distribute by the laws of my country of residence.
I hope the courts throw Odex's case out the window and fine that bugger for wasting everybody's time.
We now hope that what happened to Singnet users will not happen to Starhub users. Gather the info and fight for your rights! -
A thing which I wonder is Odex is only a distributor, not the copyright owner. Anime that we have gotten from a different 'source' other then them is deemed as infringement of 'their copyrights' ? A sole distributor has the right to market and sell their products... but it doesn't have the right to stop others from getting the products from elsewhere as there are no buying/selling/transactions done. (not infringing the distributorship)Originally posted by Shotgun:Its kind of ridiculous that only local laws apply when the owners of the copyright are largely in Japan. Unless Odex can somehow claim to be the owners of the copyright by proxy in Singapore, or is the official sole distributor of particular animes in Singapore.
IP laws is significantly different in application from eg. Criminal law. If I have no qualms about my intellectual property being distributed, I don't see why anyone else should be unhappy and decide to take legal action on MY Intellectual property that has been allowed to be freely distribute by the laws of my country of residence.
I hope the courts throw Odex's case out the window and fine that bugger for wasting everybody's time.
It is like selling bottled mineral water and accusing others for getting their mineral water from the local streams.
Last thing, what's the copyright issue when we are not even ripping Odex's DVDs and put them up to download? The anime is courtesy from the fan-subs, not Odex. -
They don't even say arigato????Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Once he's done with his PC, I'll contact him. But unlikely he will stay around long enough for me to ask. They always disappear.
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there is ine guy in sgf leh
tekken ddr admin or wat -
Look @ japan TV TOKYO it is them who buy the anime form the creator and broadcast while @ it they also show the anime merchandise and this makes a win-win business for both TV station and toy makers.
If no 1 bring that anime here or like 6 months later i seriously predict that the anime merchandise in SG will suffer as well as cosplay. I do not think Japan want to affect the business overseas.
Best if we can EMAIL TO TV TOKYO and enquire about this rumor. If nth like this exist. Then SS is falsifying claims.
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In market there are many channels that consumer can get their stuff By $$ or FREE. Because all the sales been bad (not because of free DLs), making claims saying they are making a LOST and seeking the LAW as a backup was very honorable. -
Does anyone have details about the licensing? It would be interesting to study the terms of the license that ODEX has with regard to the anime they bring to Singapore.
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I wonder if that can be gotten by filing a information request through the Japanese side..Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Does anyone have details about the licensing? It would be interesting to study the terms of the license that ODEX has with regard to the anime they bring to Singapore. -
good point!Originally posted by NekoRin:A thing which I wonder is Odex is only a distributor, not the copyright owner. Anime that we have gotten from a different 'source' other then them is deemed as infringement of 'their copyrights' ? A sole distributor has the right to market and sell their products... but it doesn't have the right to stop others from getting the products from elsewhere as there are no buying/selling/transactions done. (not infringing the distributorship)
It is like selling bottled mineral water and accusing others for getting their mineral water from the local streams.
Last thing, what's the copyright issue when we are not even ripping Odex's DVDs and put them up to download? The anime is courtesy from the fan-subs, not Odex. -
What if someone set up a shop to distribute anime and models, market their goods, etc and do what has Odex failed to do.
Surely can earn lots and not waste time on stupid lawsuits. -
this part seems weak.Originally posted by NekoRin:It is like selling bottled mineral water and accusing others for getting their mineral water from the local streams.
the water from the local streams technically do not belong to anybody.
animes have a copyright on them. -
i'm just boycotting odex..
will be ordering mine from abroad from now on
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wow, this is a featured topic.
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If i get my anime imported from japan. And i download the fan subbed version, amd i violating any laws?
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Originally posted by uaremyfayth:If i get my anime imported from japan. And i download the fan subbed version, amd i violating any laws?
then wats the use of buying?
sidetrack:
my dad knows of this Japanese PR lawyer who's a friend of his partner who has specialised in IP issues in Japan. He noted a 40% chance of success only and the most is just an injuction
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Can Oh-dick sue or claim compensation from a person for downloading titles that are not in their catalog (selling list) yet?
For eg,
- An anime title that they do not carry
- An anime episode that they do not carry, or carry yet? (You DL ep.15, but they only carry up to ep.5)
- A different version of an anime... (the diff between OVA and fansub, bla bla) -
I was just wondering if it were possible to petition Tokyo TV to give us another distributor because seriously, ODEX is doing such a poor job marketing and distributing their products, I can hardly consider them even fit for the license.Originally posted by Master -_-:
then wats the use of buying?
sidetrack:
my dad knows of this Japanese PR lawyer who's a friend of his partner who has specialised in IP issues in Japan. He noted a 40% chance of success only and the most is just an injuction