Singapore cracks down on anime piracy
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I came back from JP just now, I took a look at Gundam Seed DVD, its S$39.00 for 5 episodes... is that cheap?
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i want back my axn jap dialouge eng sub anime from the past...
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But i did buy full set of GTO for 32.90, think overseas import to giant supermart.
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dont support their crap la
boycott their fukin products its lousy quality anyway. And its not like they wan to stop this piracy coz of the intergrity to respect the anime producers hardwork, they are doing this so they can force animefans into a corner with no choice but to buy their shyte.
We download for free, but we watch to admire and worship the anime series, we are not any less guilty than those moneysukking kukubirds.
DECLARE WAR
BOYCOTT
BUY IMPORTS -
Source:http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/05/30/apocalypse-now/
Comment by darkmirage
"Actually Odex doesnÂ’t need us to survive. I have met with the CEO of Odex twice before this incident and from what I gather, Odex doesnÂ’t make any money from VCD and DVD sales at all.
It makes money off providing series for local TV and Animax. The people who watch those channels (i.e. mainstream viewers) do not even know or care about what Odex is doing. Therefore Odex will continue to survive with or without our support, so thereÂ’s no use for empty threats here.
You must also realize that Odex is under very heavy constraints placed by the Japanese studios. Singapore is an insignificant market to the Japanese studios, therefore they would rather simply not license anything to us and save the trouble. Therefore the license agreements given to Odex are highly disadvantageous and limited compared to what the American distributors get. The Japanese are more interested in making sure that Odex DVDs donÂ’t become a source for pirated DVDs, therefore they imposed certain limits on the quality allowed and release schedules for R3 releases.
Calm down everyoneÂ… I donÂ’t think Odex will be unreasonable and pursue the matter if for example you have a whole stack of R2 DVDs at home. I have read of at least one case where the individual was let off with a warning after contacting AVPAS/Odex." -
having r2 dvds oso canot?
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Originally posted by Gordonator:
load of crap. focus groups unable to differentiate? which animes did they watch and which were from them? who were the focus group? they and their henchmen? no details whatsoever.
[b]Getting anime illegally online? Beware
Japanese animated cartoons distributor sending letters to culprits warning of legal action
By Chua Hian Hou, June 1, 2007
PRICES of anime DVDs here are the world's lowest, but fans of these Japanese animated cartoons prefer to get them online - for free.
Now they may land in the soup because a crackdown has been launched, and they are the targets for downloading these English-subtitled cartoons through file-sharing networks.
Local anime distributor Odex, which brings in the DVDs from Japan, has sent out letters to culprits it has identified as having downloaded these 'fansubs' using the Internet and peer-to-peer systems like BitTorrent.
'Fansubs' are the works subtitled by bilingual fans of anime as a service to the community of non-Japanese-speaking anime fans.
Odex spokesman Stephen Sing would not say how many legal letters have been issued.
A copy of one such letter obtained by The Straits Times announced that Odex would take legal action against the alleged downloader unless he settled the issue. Odex did not say what constituted a settlement.
The letter to this particular alleged downloader - a SingNet subscriber - came attached with a three-page listing of alleged downloads.
Mr Sing said that Odex, together with the Anti Video Piracy Association of Singapore, had no choice but to take legal action, because 'pirates' here download more anime files than any other country except the United States, which was 'ridiculous, considering our population'.
Anime fansubs, around since the 1980s, used to come in video cassettes, but the Internet and BitTorrent have made it cheap and easy to get hold of the cartoons.
An anime fan here, who declined to be named, said the community was downloading fansubs because original anime works were of poor quality and overpriced.
Mr Sing's counter: 'Perception problem.'
Focus groups, he said, have been unable to differentiate fansubs from its DVDs when played back on a 42-inch TV set.
Mr Sing added that on a per-DVD basis, prices here were the world's lowest, and that even when Odex bundled three DVDs for a $9.90 trial offer, fans did not bite.
In the US, the price of a two-DVD set costs between US$15 and US$20, depending on the anime title.
The anime fan was dismissive of the crackdown and said it would not stop fansub piracy. The community is tech-savvy and will find ways to continue downloading without getting caught, he said.
Under Singapore's Copyright Act, users found guilty of 'wilful' and 'significant' downloads face fines of up to $20,000 and up to six months behind bars.
The Act does not specify what constitutes a significant number of downloads. [/b]
cheapest? please don't make me die of luagther.
and sounds like odex is going for all anime rather than the anime they carry. so wtf is it their business and not just the anti video piracy nonsense or the government?
btw we never found out how they did the tracking right? no privacy laws in singapore but perhaps if we knew the extend of intrusion into privacy things will change -
I donno... I just copied this from VR-zone...Originally posted by hisoka:load of crap. focus groups unable to differentiate? which animes did they watch and which were from them? who were the focus group? they and their henchmen? no details whatsoever.
cheapest? please don't make me die of luagther.
and sounds like odex is going for all anime rather than the anime they carry. so wtf is it their business and not just the anti video piracy nonsense or the government?
btw we never found out how they did the tracking right? no privacy laws in singapore but perhaps if we knew the extend of intrusion into privacy things will change 
Anyway, I hate ODEX the same as the next guy... there must be competition or we become victim of monopolization...
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Uhhh, anybody wanna try starting a DC++ group?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:DC++ ? -
i know you copied it. i ws pointing out with regards to the article.Originally posted by MohamedF:I donno... I just copied this from VR-zone...
Anyway, I hate ODEX the same as the next guy... there must be competition or we become victim of monopolization...
actually is there like limitations or just that other companies arre not interested in anime imports/supply to singapore? -
I ish noob... can explain...Originally posted by Gauze:Uhhh, anybody wanna try starting a DC++ group?
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it doesnt matter if u start dc++, someone still has to download wad
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Originally posted by MohamedF:I ish noob... can explain... Originally posted by Parka:
Just form a DC network and share within friends lor. Anyone who gets the letter can confirm the mole is inside the network. -
Its ok, if that someone gets caught, he'll be remembered as a martyr for our cause.Originally posted by Kawazoe:it doesnt matter if u start dc++, someone still has to download wad -
want o be our matyr?
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If you all will help me organize a jail break, why not.Originally posted by Kawazoe:want o be our matyr? -
who say the "matry", need to be in Singapore...?Originally posted by Gauze:If you all will help me organize a jail break, why not. -
Intriguing.......Originally posted by MohamedF:who say the "matry", need to be in Singapore...?
Man, Ill just give it a start. MohamedF, Ill pm you if you're interested and if it can work out? -
The people at AVPAS have some of the same staff at ODEX.
Please check the staff directory.
And we do need to start a campaign to get a Data Protection Act enacted. -
scan of yesterday zao bao. the portion in red really makes my blood boils. so ya ya. knn.
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Like I said, go to Tomorrow.SG and read the post about this ODEX issue.
I do not for one minute believe that this AVPAS has without-a-doubt clear and present legal authority because there is no differentiation between some of their staff members and ODEX. They are just an agency that purports to act as a association.
What AVPAS has is ODEX staff on their own members list and it seems very convenient that they can "approach" to file a
"complaint", basically almost talking amongst themselves.
Go search or google for the staff directory and their personnel info for both organisations. -
Talking to themselves.... haw haw haw....
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Yay and thanks for LL's dig.
DC++ sucks. -
One more issue.
ODEX's license is depending on their amount of sales garnered. If their sales drop below a certain level, the Japanese home distributor may choose to revoke and/or not renew their license. -
Take a look..
AVPAS members.
Committee
President Dr. Toh See Kiat
Vice President Mr. Go Wei Ho Peter
Secretary Mr. Sing Xin Yang
Treasurer Miss Yong Yet Yuen
Ordinary Committee Member
Mr. Tetsuo Honda
Mr. Won Kar Soon
Mr. Zhang Wen Shan
Mr. Choo Chao Foo
Mr. Ng Kiat Wee
Mr. Soh Ghim Soon
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and take a look below..
http://www.crystalacids.com/database/title/1110/fantastic-children/
ADR Production: Odex Private Ltd.
Staff..
Production Coordinator:
Go Wei Ho
Sing Xin Yang
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There is clear conflict of interest here. Because there is staff of ODEX serving on the board of AVPAS. It's like saying that MTV's head of programmes serves on the MDA Board of Censors and carrying out the censorship board's decisions.
It is not a very nice situation. Just thought I'd like to share this, after reading on Tomorrow.sg.