Singapore cracks down on anime piracy
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when is hiruhi season 2 comming out ?
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Wow good info you dig out there.Originally posted by Ayukat:
But if you noticed. The post is being made like 5years ago? -
Not I dig de lah, those hwz ppl dig de... they machiam bend on destroying Odex, keep digging digging digging... alreadi sexposed the director and chairman liao still not enuff...Originally posted by Xephone_xenon:Wow good info you dig out there.
But if you noticed. The post is being made like 5years ago?
Tomolo muz buy the new paper and take notice of all major singapore blogs, Mr Brown they email liao...
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Well, I just have this feeling that ODEX will lose.Originally posted by Ayukat:Not I dig de lah, those hwz ppl dig de... they machiam bend on destroying Odex, keep digging digging digging... alreadi sexposed the director and chairman liao still not enuff...
Tomolo muz buy the new paper and take notice of all major singapore blogs, Mr Brown they email liao... -
StarHub must give names of illegal anime downloaders
Tuesday, 14th August 2007
Prime News, Straits Times
By Chua Hian Hou
The Singapore distributor of Japanese animated cartoons called anime has won the right to track down fans who download the programmes illegally using Starhub internet accounts.
A subordinate court has ordered the Telco to disclose the identity of about 1,000 of its subscribers accused of illegally downloading anime.
It is believed to be one of the largest crackdowns of illegal Internet downloading by home users in Singapore.
The recent hearing was held in a closed chamber session, so few details of the case are available publicly. The action was taken by local anime distributor ODEX.
Starhub had initially resisted the company’s efforts to get its customer data, said a spokesman for Telco, as it had "an obligation to protect our customer' information". But it now has no choice but to comply with the court order, as ODEX had “satisfied the court of its need for the information”.
Once ODEX obtains the identities of these Internet users from Starhub, it is expected to write to them demanding a settlement of up to $5,000 and a promise to stop further illegal downloading.
In May, ODEX went after 17 Singnet subscribers after obtaining a similar court order. It then sent more letters to an undisclosed number of other Singnet subscribers also accused of illegally downloading anime.
Odex Director Peter GO said a few infringers with financial difficulties were allowed to settle for about $1,000. He added that a number of those who had received the letter had engaged lawyers, but did not contest ODEX's case.
Having suceeded in getting SingNet and Starhub customer lists, ODEX will now go after customers of another internet service provider, Pacific Internet, in the subordinate courts later this week. It is understood ODEX has accused about 1,000 PacNet users of illegal downloading.
PacNet spokesman Bernard Ho, said the firm was "resisting the application" made by ODEX in court.
However, lawyers familiar with such applications say they have strong track record of sucess. But information obtained this way is not always useful to the plaintiff. For instance, the user may no longer be in the country.
Popular with both children and adults, the anime industry was worth as much as US$5 Billion ($7.5billion) world wide according to 2004 Business Week report. However, illegal downloads, available online since the late 1990s, have cut deeply into the profits of producers and distributers.
Mr Peter GO said the South Korean anime market, once the world's second largest after Japan, collapsed several years ago due to piracy problems.
This prompted Japanese studios making anime to band together to mount the crackdown here as they were worried Singapore, although not big a market, would end up the same way.
A 23 year old anime fan acknowledged that there some truth to Mr GO'S words. "At my peak a while ago, I used to download 5 to 10 gigabytes of anime a week, " said the undergraduate, who declined to be named. Now, he is resigned that his past will catch up with him.
"It's just a matter of time before I get the dreaded ODEX Letter."
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one of the director made a few comments in a forum under the nick xysing,. some hardwarezone members did some research and managed to discover his real name, address and even hp number.
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the people want anime.. odex wants to gouge everyone..
people will buy the stuff if it is good and cheap... odex keeps putting out accursed VCDs which people like me will never ever buy.. DVDs are bloody expensive and the range is so narrow it is less than pathetic
odex keeps repeating that they are the 'cheapest' in asia.. well, if the people want to hammer odex, they should go do some research, compile a whole lot of different anime titles and then put the prices of each from a different country (the original ones, not pirated versions) in a spreadsheet...
then see what odex has to say..
for those really entrepreneural amongst us, HERE is your chance to tap into a hugeass market... all you have to do is to undercut odex -
not only that, odex has been critisized for not marketing themselves properly. so many anime lovers nv hear abt them b4. until they started suing people.Originally posted by the Bear:the people want anime.. odex wants to gouge everyone..
people will buy the stuff if it is good and cheap... odex keeps putting out accursed VCDs which people like me will never ever buy.. DVDs are bloody expensive and the range is so narrow it is less than pathetic
odex keeps repeating that they are the 'cheapest' in asia.. well, if the people want to hammer odex, they should go do some research, compile a whole lot of different anime titles and then put the prices of each from a different country (the original ones, not pirated versions) in a spreadsheet...
then see what odex has to say..
for those really entrepreneural amongst us, HERE is your chance to tap into a hugeass market... all you have to do is to undercut odex
they should market themselves properly first, then people might buy their dvds. -
uhh.. odex is the ONLY company bringing in anime to singapore..
they have a monopoly... it is not about marketing when you are the only source.. all anime out there in the shops bear their name...
their pricing is idiotic.. like Cowboy Bebop, i bought the DVDs for $49.90 a long time ago.. their VCDs cost $29.90 for each of the 2 volumes.. which means the series on VCD cost $59.80
which is kind of dumb...
considering it is repackaged and probably been duplicated then sold to us under license, and i don't know what, and in reality, not the original thing, i think we have all been ripped off blind..
mine says "The Perfect Sessions" but the packaging doesn't look anything like the actual packaging which i have seen on the internet searches....
so.. piracy? odex is "legal" and selling us substandard and expensive stuff, the downloader is just watching it and not profitting from it...Originally posted by dumbdumb!:not only that, odex has been critisized for not marketing themselves properly. so many anime lovers nv hear abt them b4. until they started suing people.
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haha.. the one with money and power decides what is right and legal.
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There are millions and one way to obtain animes. At the most, stop watching. We will cancel our internet subscription after contract ends and downgrade to what the lowest plan there is. Let's see who lose in the end.
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latest news is that odex has won a court battle to force starhub to provide names.
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I say we boycott Odex
I bet they want all these fines coz it's like "easy money" to make up for their lost profits due to their slow releases and poor quality and ridiculas prices -
they learnt from RIAA..
thing is, RIAA is now public enemy no.1 in the US..
Odex is way smaller than RIAA.. and heck of a lot more vulnerable
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If it's a civil claim, it's not called fines. Hmm..Originally posted by elindra:I say we boycott Odex
I bet they want all these fines coz it's like "easy money" to make up for their lost profits due to their slow releases and poor quality and ridiculas prices -
ok, what's the cheapest plan of ISP in the market now?
starhub oso nt reliable anymore. time for a change.
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The ISP's Terms & Conditions clearly states they are to divulge the details of the offended IPs if required by the law. So, NO ISP is considered safe.
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Odex is not the law.Originally posted by BÃ¥seline:The ISP's Terms & Conditions clearly states they are to divulge the details of the offended IPs if required by the law. So, NO ISP is considered safe. -
Precisely. How can a civil claim possess enough weight to subpoena the ISPs.. intriguing..Originally posted by Gordonator:Odex is not the law. -
where to download paid anime. i dun wan to buy odex sh|t
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seems like the only way to get paid anime is to import.Originally posted by Ah Gong:where to download paid anime. i dun wan to buy odex sh|t -
either buy from overseas, which is USA, better packaging andOriginally posted by Purplehaze623:seems like the only way to get paid anime is to import.
http://www.viz.com/
now you can download paid ep of bleach online.................. with a cost..... -
I personally think that if you like a series so much, you should pay for it after downloading a few samples to watch it.
Don't like ODEX's quality? Do a Mass Order with friends/club direct from Japan.
It's only fair lah.
I've made a few short films before, and I wouldn't like to be ripped off in entirety. Having said that, if people were to download and sample them, I'll be happy that there is interest in them. -
Of cos ODEX is not the law. If you read thru the threads in HWZ, you know what I'm talking about.Originally posted by Gordonator:Odex is not the law.