Singapore cracks down on anime piracy
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Then dont believe lor.Originally posted by Gordonator:whatever odex tells u during the meeting, u believe them?
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Anyway if you have been monitoring animebloggers IRC chat, searching on other news sources on why this is happening. Its a different story.
Rather then just looking into the forums and seeing the "Odex Hating" campaign. -
Haiz....Police Men too free mah. Nothing to do!
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did u question them during the meeting how come AVPA is also run by Odex? which is a serious conflict of interest.
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No.Originally posted by Gordonator:did u question them during the meeting how come AVPA is also run by Odex? which is a serious conflict of interest.
You want can try to email them. -
Feel the fury of Odex, 9yo youngest to be caught downloading anime so far.... Will you be next? -
pm me la. dohOriginally posted by Xephone_xenon:Said it once in EDMW, kana flame.
Wont say it again. Want you can go dig.
There are too many blinded odex haters liao.
Odex is not even the company thats behind all this.
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When Odex sent out its first batch of 17 letters, it also posted warnings on anime forums against illegal downloading.
Which forum?
But these were "not taken seriously", Mr Sing said.
And why are they backtracking people for those that had take their warning seriously?
This sentence is not true, anybody want to sent email to sph? -
Sadly, even if there are Odex haters, I am one of them now, its true letters came from them.
One sample from Playpark forums, the person who kenna...
Odex Official Warning Letter
Each anime for SGD$10K in court or SGD$3.5K for out of court settlement, ultimately they are on higher grounds...
Of course the gahmen havs its hands in it... -
We all know this.Originally posted by jetabt767400:Sadly, even if there are Odex haters, I am one of them now, its true letters came from them.
One sample from Playpark forums, the person who kenna...
Odex Official Warning Letter
Each anime for SGD$10K in court or SGD$3.5K for out of court settlement, ultimately they are on higher grounds...
Of course the gahmen havs its hands in it... -
THIS WAY:Originally posted by Ayukat:I've been reading lots and lots and lots of blogs and forum all these time.
And now I am wondering, how does Odex actually tracks people?
There has been instances of people getting fined for incomplete torrents, like they download till 85%, then they delete away, and they got fined for the episode they did not download finish. This makes me come to the conclusion that Odex is not doing packet scanning. We all know how Bittorrent works, random bits and bytes are downloaded and pieced together like a puzzle. And if they are using packet scanning to track people down, the bits and bytes coming in and out would be worthless data anyway.
So my speculation would be they are camping on torrents, grab a few random IP Address, then complain to the ISP.
Of course, another way would be monitoring the traffic, which I doubt the ISP let them do so generously, as many other confidential data are also at risk. And they would lose too many customers if too many people are caught.
What do you think?
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Eh... the Odex de settle is harsh harsh de, kept in the dark de...
Lets say both Odex and another company like TV Tokyo catches you in the same thing...
Then you must pay both? Coz both also got the license, both also can make you pay... -
TNP today with bigger Odex headline, page2-3. Wow they will raid homes if the situation does not improve? Like we are smuggling drugs or something... -.-; -
the isp should at least inform the pple whom they reveal the IPs of.......
or do they mean the court ordered them to give them all the IP list, if so then thats like giving them a blank check -
This is the result of the increase in GST !!Originally posted by Gordonator:according to the chinese papers today. 17 singaporeans have been issued with warning letters from the Singapore Anti-Video Piracy Association (AVPA) regarding illegal downloading of animes.
AVPA also says they will work with Singnet, Starhub and Pac net to nab more illegal downloaders.
WTF!?
We pay them to backstab us.
They got more money to find people to check us out and sue us.
Sad world -
there you goOriginally posted by WinsonKOH:http://www.picturesky.com/displayimage.php?album=6427&pos=5
TNP today with bigger Odex headline, page2-3. Wow they will raid homes if the situation does not improve? Like we are smuggling drugs or something... -.-; -
Haiz....
Take a look at the list...
http://avpas.com.sg/AVPAS_Authorized.html
but the thing is, some of these are not sold in Singapore or by odex
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Correct, since when does ODEX have the right to charge someone for downloading stuff that is not in their charge?Originally posted by MohamedF:Haiz....
Take a look at the list...
http://avpas.com.sg/AVPAS_Authorized.html
but the thing is, some of these are not sold in Singapore or by odex
And AVPAS is staffed with ODEX employees, The New Paper failed to spot this glaring issue.
Second point, ODEX does not distribute all the animation that is made in Japan.
American firm eh, apparently they can wriggle out of their native Data Protection Act's jurisdiction I suppose? -
Now we can onli make big big noise... to prevent getting caught, pls avoid these tittles... and if "ODEX" caught you downloading tittles that is not licenced by "them" and demand money if not will refer you to court, that sounds a lot like Extortion... and Extortion is illegalOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Correct, since when does ODEX have the right to charge someone for downloading stuff that is not in their charge?
And AVPAS is staffed with ODEX employees, The New Paper failed to spot this glaring issue.
Second point, ODEX does not distribute all the animation that is made in Japan.
American firm eh, apparently they can wriggle out of their native Data Protection Act's jurisdiction I suppose? -
Well, that was just some info for anime fans..Originally posted by MohamedF:Now we can onli make big big noise... to prevent getting caught, pls avoid these tittles... and if "ODEX" caught you downloading tittles that is not licenced by "them" and demand money if not will refer you to court, that sounds a lot like Extortion... and Extortion is illegal
I dont watch anime, it's just that the illogical nature of this got me pretty irritated.. -
how the american system works for now (as i know):
-licenced anime cannot be subbed by anyone except those who buy the rights in america
-unlicenced ones are legal to download and watch, but not distribute
-some popular fansubs (e.g. dattebayo) has been bought over by the company which own the rights, and use the fansub for commercial activities.
how the singapore system works for now:
-licenced anime not subbed by singaporean, but owning it and downloading it is illegal?
-unlicenced anime is illegal, even though the authorities in singapore doesn't have the rights to distribute those unlicenced anime in singapore.
hmm...... govt lack flexibility in dealing with internet-related cases. -
I rarely watch anime these days unless I confirm its a good one that's worth my time... but what super irritates me is the fact that ODEX produce such poor quality of product and service and have the cheek to say "buy our stuff or else"Originally posted by LazerLordz:Well, that was just some info for anime fans..
I dont watch anime, it's just that the illogical nature of this got me pretty irritated..
Why don't they try a better approach like "actually giving their customers what they want"? -
This is the flaw of our local system. We're never in the forefront of change, always at the back of the queue, reacting and not creating.Originally posted by Purplehaze623:how the american system works for now (as i know):
-licenced anime cannot be subbed by anyone except those who buy the rights in america
-unlicenced ones are legal to download and watch, but not distribute
-some popular fansubs (e.g. dattebayo) has been bought over by the company which own the rights, and use the fansub for commercial activities.
how the singapore system works for now:
-licenced anime not subbed by singaporean, but owning it and downloading it is illegal?
-unlicenced anime is illegal, even though the authorities in singapore doesn't have the rights to distribute those unlicenced anime in singapore.
hmm...... govt lack flexibility in dealing with internet-related cases.
Don't expect things to change anytime soon. Look at how far we've fallen behind Korea and Japan even in the context of mobile broadband coverage and outreach. -
you are just too darn dumb and please you have no idea what is tracing, stop making a fool of yourself, all starhub and singtel ip is under their own proxy server, try and trace that ip in your utorrent is see what kind of result, you get, provided you know how to trace, and furthermore,Originally posted by kivine:THIS WAY:
SO PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH MORE, MAKING A JOKE OUT OF YOURSELF
DIMWIT, DO YOU UNDERSTAND????? -
Its pointless to mingle with idiots like them.Originally posted by allentyb:you are just too darn dumb and please you have no idea what is tracing, stop making a fool of yourself, all starhub and singtel ip is under one proxy server, try and trace that ip in your utorrent is see what kind of result, you get, provided you know how to trace, and furthermore,
SO PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH MORE, MAKING A JOKE OUT OF YOURSELF
DIMWIT, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????