European Grand Prix: 7 May
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Not that he's afraid, but at his age he wouldn't have the enthusiasm to fight Alonso on the track when the margin between them wasn't big enough (due to the extra fuel he was carrying).Originally posted by Gedanken:I don't buy that, KB. If MS had indeed had more than enough to win, he would have done something at either Turn 1 or Turn 13.
That is, unless the car's good enough and MS has finally encountered a driver he's scared of overtaking.
Maybe we'd see fireworks if he was Rosberg Jr's age, or if he was still behind after the final round of pitstops. -
I dont think he is afraid, nor his age is affecting his driving. I believe MS is just being sensible because there is no point taking such a risk when you already know that you are have good strategy plan out for you.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:Not that he's afraid, but at his age he wouldn't have the enthusiasm to fight Alonso on the track when the margin between them wasn't big enough (due to the extra fuel he was carrying).
Maybe we'd see fireworks if he was Rosberg Jr's age, or if he was still behind after the final round of pitstops.
I believe there will be fireworks if MS didnt come out from the 2nd pit stop ahead of alonso. -
That sensibility come with age (and trust in your race engineer/technical director), just as you won't see the young footballers chase every backpass a few years from now.Originally posted by Gazelle:I dont think he is afraid, nor his age is affecting his driving. I believe MS is just being sensible because there is no point taking such a risk when you already know that you are have good strategy plan out for you.
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Well, there you go, then. MS didn't crucify Alonso - Ross Brawn just made yet another good call and they finally got that 248 dialled in right. Now if MS doesn't count too much on his tail gunner to win races for him (can anyone say Austria?), we just might have a nice little scrap for the WDC this season.
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When i say crucify, I mean in lap times. It is about 0.45 sec faster, that to me is a big gapOriginally posted by Gedanken:Well, there you go, then. MS didn't crucify Alonso - Ross Brawn just made yet another good call and they finally got that 248 dialled in right. Now if MS doesn't count too much on his tail gunner to win races for him (can anyone say Austria?), we just might have a nice little scrap for the WDC this season. -
MS was never a overtaker. think back to 01 to 04. He never really tried overtaking. He always sat on someone's gearbox and waited till the other person pitted before banging in some super fast laps. Even with the quickest car beneath him, he doesn't overtake.Originally posted by Gedanken:I don't buy that, KB. If MS had indeed had more than enough to win, he would have done something at either Turn 1 or Turn 13.
That is, unless the car's good enough and MS has finally encountered a driver he's scared of overtaking. -
during those years, he was always the leading car, how to overtake?Originally posted by HENG@:MS was never a overtaker. think back to 01 to 04. He never really tried overtaking. He always sat on someone's gearbox and waited till the other person pitted before banging in some super fast laps. Even with the quickest car beneath him, he doesn't overtake.
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not always.Originally posted by Gazelle:during those years, he was always the leading car, how to overtake? -
Awww, that's not really fair, Heng. Don't you remember his two overtaking moves in Austria? man, did he take the lead in convincing style!Originally posted by HENG@:MS was never a overtaker. think back to 01 to 04. He never really tried overtaking. He always sat on someone's gearbox and waited till the other person pitted before banging in some super fast laps. Even with the quickest car beneath him, he doesn't overtake. -
When you are a young driver, you NEED to overtake in order to get notice. When you are a 7 time world champion, all you need is to win the race.
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i see Red fans and anti-red fans
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I must qualify, i am a white and blue fanOriginally posted by SBS9828X:i see Red fans and anti-red fans -
white and blue? Williams? Or Sauber?Originally posted by Gazelle:I must qualify, i am a white and blue fan -
More a case of fans of so-called #1 drivers who can't win without tail gunners and fans of those who can.Originally posted by SBS9828X:i see Red fans and anti-red fans 
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Hmm, you mean a piddly little 5-time WDC like Fangio was just showing off?Originally posted by Gazelle:When you are a young driver, you NEED to overtake in order to get notice. When you are a 7 time world champion, all you need is to win the race.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
F1 is it 80% cars and tyres strategy, 20% driver. If you want racer, you should check out A1GP.
Hmm, you mean a piddly little 5-time WDC like Fangio was just showing off?
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'Tis true, sadly enough. After all, these are the days when someone can sample a piece of music, repeat it over and over and over and over again for four minutes, and call it a hit. Fodder for the mindless millions.
Well, I suppose we can wait till '08 when they bring slicks back. Maybe then we'll get some real racing. Having started in the Prost/Senna days, fans like yours truly await the day when team orders, aerodynamics and Max Mosley's Institute of Stupid Ideas fade away. -
oh yea! thats true!Originally posted by Gedanken:Awww, that's not really fair, Heng. Don't you remember his two overtaking moves in Austria? man, did he take the lead in convincing style!