morning all ~
Originally posted by fudgester:I sure would like to know what was the logic behind building a titanium-clad church.....
What were they trying to do? Protecting the church from a direct artillery strike?
Maybe they are afraid of divine punishment that literally came from above?
No offense to any CHC members here though...
Originally posted by fudgester:I sure would like to know what was the logic behind building a titanium-clad church.....
What were they trying to do? Protecting the church from a direct artillery strike?
I suspect we'd find out more as the investigation unfolds .....
I was telling my mother this morning, it's only a matter of time since those mega churches come under scrutiny, but they can't move in on them first ..... so they got to squeeze that hapless ren ci monk's nuts first ......
if the gov is not careful, there'll be political fallout for sure ....
Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:
Maybe they are afraid of divine punishment that literally came from above?No offense to any CHC members here though...
makes it all sound so cult like - like those we usually see on TVs/US
Originally posted by QX179R:morning all ~
ambu ~~
Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:
Wat's HR?I actually tot of increasing str before starting to increase my stamina... I just hope I have enuff discipline for it..
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Originally posted by Fatum:I suspect we'd find out more as the investigation unfolds .....
I was telling my mother this morning, it's only a matter of time since those mega churches come under scrutiny, but they can't move in on them first ..... so they got to squeeze that hapless ren ci monk's nuts first ......
if the gov is not careful, there'll be political fallout for sure ....
always wonder, ... why the pastor wife's chinese album sales hit rocket high, even most of us dun even listen to her songs...
we just dun understand...
Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:always wonder, ... why the pastor wife's chinese album sales hit rocket high, even most of us dun even listen to her songs...
we just dun understand...
yah man, I've always wondered about horseface sun.
Originally posted by cassie:
makes it all sound so cult like - like those we usually see on TVs/US
well a huge number of them are very religious... However, being too over zealous makes them more like fanatics of a cult actually...
Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:
well a huge number of them are very religious... However, being too over zealous makes them more like fanatics of a cult actually...
they like to focus on the younglings ......
and the younglings are the most militant ones ....
though I've always suspected many of the kids go there just to hook up, or for the camadrie and group companionship alone ....
it'd be awesome if the church founders end up in jail over this. but somehow I suspect because they have powerful friends, they'll end up with a slap on the wrist, like that fucker durai.
Originally posted by Fatum:they like to focus on the younglings ......
and the younglings are the most militant ones ....
though I've always suspected many of the kids go there just to hook up, or for the camadrie and group companionship alone ....
I totally have to agree...
My group usually hang out ard Grand Link (Mech Master Billiard) after sunday service back in the time when the church is still in it's paya lebar premise beside Lion City Hotel...
However, I didn't follow them when they moved to the west... After they got their fanbase too huge from the east and west, they went to expo...
Cannot understimate their networking and presuading abilities... One would almost link them to those typical MLMs >____>
I suspect they don't have powerful friends, but a very vocal congregation ....
most of them are born-agains, and born agains most many religions are the most lunatic of the lot .....
Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:always wonder, ... why the pastor wife's chinese album sales hit rocket high, even most of us dun even listen to her songs...
we just dun understand...
heard that they encourage their members to buy her album.. duno how true that is
Originally posted by av98m:it'd be awesome if the church founders end up in jail over this. but somehow I suspect because they have powerful friends, they'll end up with a slap on the wrist, like that fucker durai.
It might get complicated if they went to jail... Imagine church members uprising... And whatever the govt do, ppl would find ways to blame the govt one way or another...
there will really be a political fallout >__>
Originally posted by Fatum:I suspect we'd find out more as the investigation unfolds .....
I was telling my mother this morning, it's only a matter of time since those mega churches come under scrutiny, but they can't move in on them first ..... so they got to squeeze that hapless ren ci monk's nuts first ......
if the gov is not careful, there'll be political fallout for sure ....
Well, it's not for me to tell others how to spend their money....
But freak, while I can understand their need for a large church building, surely titanium cladding doesn't add on to the worship, no?
Ah well. Apparently their own financial statements say that they've spent $8 million over the past two years on stuff like audio systems, lighting, and multimedia ventures.
8 million on lights, sound, and music. Go figure.
Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:
It might get complicated if they went to jail... Imagine church members uprising... And whatever the govt do, ppl would find ways to blame the govt one way or another...there will really be a political fallout >__>
that's why I say they will probably be given some light punishment with no jail time.
next on the hit list should be new creation church ... with their 600k a year, italian suit wearing pastor ......
Originally posted by ä¸�如就æ»:heard that they encourage their members to buy her album.. duno how true that is
for eyes to see leh.. pretty easy, attend her album launch at anyplace, those fans who lift up their album (during 1st launch) and yell their throat out... are from.......
Originally posted by fudgester:Well, it's not for me to tell others how to spend their money....
But freak, while I can understand their need for a large church building, surely titanium cladding doesn't add on to the worship, no?
Ah well. Apparently their own financial statements say that they've spent $8 million over the past two years on stuff like audio systems, lighting, and multimedia ventures.
8 million on lights, sound, and music. Go figure.
$8 million?????
Originally posted by cassie:
$8 million?????
their expenditure is like 40 million a year .....
and more than 9 million in salaries for 150 staff members ....
that works out to 60000 per person per year ....
It's afternoon, peeps.
Time for a drink.
Originally posted by Fatum:their expenditure is like 40 million a year .....
and more than 9 million in salaries for 150 staff members ....
that works out to 60000 per person per year ....
wait..why would a church needs 150 staff????
haiz.. reminds me of a ex-colleague who told me..
her salary is about $1800, after take home about $1450 bah..
she gave 1/3hr of it to her church left $1000.00
she bought endowement insurance (like secure her saving / life when she gets older) ie $300 per month
left $700
internet, phone, new lappy installment : $400
left $300
daily transport/food : $250
she told her poor work-till-death old mom : i have no money for u...sorry..
and she always try to scam lunch from us..!
Originally posted by cassie:
$8 million?????
And it's not as if they rent out the place for concerts, so the retrofitting can't be for that...