Originally posted by kopiosatu:u should pity the SAF people in the classified units
go out with "zero" work experience
what can they say? "i fix aircon in my 7yrs in SAF"?
same lah.. when i left SAF, i only got admin (army admin niah) and typing and computer skills.. lucky i gotten my UK diploma pple as backup when applying for the job, i got a better salary.. took me 1/2 year to understand and handle pple differently..
cos the 4 years i was evolved in my tiny office with the same officers and staffs...
Originally posted by kopiosatu:its ok, my hours to pay ratio is much better than SAF now.
somemore without any form of aggressive marketing
i still haven't reach the low levels of other photographers who make clones to make it seem like their business is good and bluff other people. (yes, the big name ones u see now, used to do it when they were still small)
business is doing good considering that my progress has been "clean"
what is make clones??
Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:
what is make clones??
hahaha, u didn't know right?
that is why i am against wedding photography in general
just to climb up, they have clones who will go into forums to say "oh, the photos is very nice" or "i booked this guy, how is he?" then another clone come in and say "oh he's good..." blah blah blah
then u gotta meet customers to sweet talk them to choose you
then u keep going to crapsnap to post up photos. the bad thing about crapsnap is that if u post often enough, soon you will have a fan base who will say your photos are fantastic no matter what.
and u keep posting and posting and posting until people know u and give thumbs up
then again, this is all in the beginning when u are up and coming OR a nobody
when u have broken through and established yourself, u just sit back and relax, customers come to you, and no matter how crap your photos are, people still believe they paid top dollar for you.
just let me know if u are interested in seeing rubbish images and people pay so much money for it, i can show u via PM
that's why i am happy that i still get good business without resorting to these. i can't tell people all the bullshit those other people spew out to get customers to choose their services.
ooh.. i know about this ..
dun say wedding photography,normal outing, they have groups ..say kakis..
one of them post craps, they rest will says very good even the pic is like any standard no brainer shots..
lucky my friend dun post pics at cs..
he got referred by his own clients .. :)
he just got invited and done event as spoke person for one of the camera brand on photography now :) he got sponsorship and loan for cam eqpt :) i am sure he got the right track...
if u notice the big name fellas are not that active in crapsnap anymore because the objective of conning people have been met
anyway i have first hand experience in seeing all that happening.
its after that, i told myself that i will never resort to something like that.
i rather make my slow climb up the commercial side. the photographer i look up to, only boomed at 38yrs old. so i still have time to climb cleanly.
Originally posted by kopiosatu:if u notice the big name fellas are not that active in crapsnap anymore because the objective of conning people have been met
anyway i have first hand experience in seeing all that happening.
its after that, i told myself that i will never resort to something like that.
i rather make my slow climb up the commercial side. the photographer i look up to, only boomed at 38yrs old. so i still have time to climb cleanly.
:) take your time and enjoy what u do lah :)
maybe its good experience to join him during his wedding shoots..
done it once and though he commented i got most blur pics.. got a few "good" ones that his clients like and chose.. *gimme encouragement bah*
its good learning opportunities bah.. i gotto start somewhere :)
oki.. time to pack room and get ready for friends' gathering :)
Originally posted by LOTUSfairy: he just got invited and done event as spoke person for one of the camera brand on photography now :) he got sponsorship and loan for cam eqpt :) i am sure he got the right track...
money is the only realistic gauge.
2 more weeks to av's shoot
so damn far lor
Originally posted by kopiosatu:2 more weeks to av's shoot
so damn far lor
he posed as what hah? yellow bunny?
or the entire gang enjoying their mcCrap again..
Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:
he posed as what hah? yellow bunny?
should be up on my website.
i'm hoping it will look fierce with correct lighting
this might work on av ,,
hot hot hot .......
time to get ready .....
dinner with future in-laws later ..... -_-"
*stress ......
i thought you've met them hundreds of times! what's the diff for tonite?
Originally posted by cassie:i thought you've met them hundreds of times! what's the diff for tonite?
the sisters and their fam are tagging along too ......-_-"
the dad's fine ..... we can talk fishing and drink chinese tea the whole afternoon .....
afternoon
Saw e NTU run kakis just now at HarbourFront area ard 1245.
I think some should be at Boon Lay right now. Majority being near ExxonMobil refinery
Originally posted by Fatum:the sisters and their fam are tagging along too ......-_-"
the dad's fine ..... we can talk fishing and drink chinese tea the whole afternoon .....
shouldn't be too hard bah? not like you need to make a good impression now that the "rice is cooked"?
Originally posted by Fatum:the sisters and their fam are tagging along too ......-_-"
the dad's fine ..... we can talk fishing and drink chinese tea the whole afternoon .....
first time meeting them? i would have thought you would have met the siblings before the parents?
plus it's usually easier with the siblings rather than the head honchos; something like similar age group, interests etc.
round 2 of BA strike. tis time round is 4 days
i should really get a sports massage especially after last night's run. my entire skeletal muscle seem to be in a rebelious mood.
just now at West Coast noticed the gabrament is now upgrading Clementi Rd/ West Coast Highway junction by building 1 viaduct in anticipation of more container trailer traffic in and out of e Pasir Panjang port.