Do you think woman boss are lousy? Why or why not?
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Gee, then you gotta see the old warrant officers in my camp
Lagi worse -
If don't manage, you say we slack, cannot survive in a male dominated work environment.Originally posted by Honeybunz:But they do it in the wrong way lor. That's why they become so hateful.
Gei kiang!
If manage, you say we too picky, don't know how to work in a male dominated work environment.
Like that how to win?
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Higher management expectations towards women bosses are very different from male bosses.
Think about it. Perhaps that's why they react to things differently.
Example - because attention to detail and careful in execution is such a FEMININE trait. This is very expected from female bosses. Whereas, the same MALE boss can plead masculine MACROmanagement, and blame it on his female secretary for not reading it properly. -
Just be efficient.Originally posted by charlize:If don't manage, you say we slack, cannot survive in a male dominated work environment.
If manage, you say we too picky, don't know how to work in a male dominated work environment.
Like that how to win?
Don't be indecisive
eg ahhh.... like that not very nice leh. Maybe use blue better
Should be "Ok. Let's use blue from now on!"
Know how to earn respect by listening. Your staff are also human. They may think of something that you will never think of. But lousy female boss only thinks they are right.
Lousy female boss always think they are very capable. They dunno humility. They like to talk about their past achievements. Why can't they understand that, by lowering their ego a little, they can grow much higher.
Don't always talk about boyfriend, husband and children. This kind of topics are boring. People, colleagues etc dunno who they are. They listen to you just to patronise you only. -
Well it sounds like you know how to be a good woman boss and I assume you are female..Originally posted by Honeybunz:Just be efficient.
Don't be indecisive
eg ahhh.... like that not very nice leh. Maybe use blue better
Should be "Ok. Let's use blue from now on!"
Know how to earn respect by listening. Your staff are also human. They may think of something that you will never think of. But lousy female boss only thinks they are right.
Lousy female boss always think they are very capable. They dunno humility. They like to talk about their past achievements. Why can't they understand that, by lowering their ego a little, they can grow much higher.
Don't always talk about boyfriend, husband and children. This kind of topics are boring. People, colleagues etc dunno who they are. They listen to you just to patronise you only.
So it isn't becos your bosses are female that they are bad. It's just that they are plain BAD bosses.. and if they have a sex change - wouldnt make a difference to their sucky personalities. -
I had more good female bosses than male bosses
Seriously I don't think it is so much so of gender but knowing the job and the personality of the manager -
At work I have two female bosses / managers. They are complete polar opposites.
One is cool, calm and collected. Very objective about things.
The other is shrieks and screams at people. We can all hear her scolding whoever on the phone, in her room, through the door... she scolds chinese/hokkien expletives like "TA MA DE !! you gei wo... etcetc " -
i just fell that female boses have to be less emotional in making of decisions.
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All in all, i hate bosses who thinks lowly or looks down on you. So far to me, any boss be it man or woman who respects me is a good boss, and i'll glady do extra stuff for them. And when you hear a word of thanks which is really rare from bosses, it just makes you damn happy.
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Depends on which field also.. Those in the technical field with the technical know how are normally objective and firm in decision making... my boss is one such example... unfortunately there will be times when she lets the emotions do the talking.. but thats just human irregardless of gender -
It has nothing to do with gender. You are just unfortunate to work under a bitch.
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Originally posted by DeadPoet:
Maybe you're right.
It has nothing to do with gender. You are just unfortunate to work under a bit[b]ch. [/b]
Three days ago, my lady manager accused me of not going thru her on certain things. She said that I didn't show her my press release and she only got to see it on the day of the event. I explained to her that it was the same one sent to her which she has no time to look at it. The same copy was amended by my Group Director which was directly sent to the media and cc to me and my manager.
I saw her email address on the cc list. So I thought I didn't have to forward to her.
Now a few weeks later, she accused me of not showing to her. She insisted that the Group Director didn't cc to her. She refused to listen to what I said.
I went back to my desk and found in my inbox that the Group director did send to both of us. And it's not only it one email, but two emails - one to SPH reporter, one to CNA.
I have the urge to forward this two to her and cc to the Group Director, telling her that I want to clear this misunderstanding.
But then, she is sensitive and petty. If I do that, instead of clearing the misunderstanding, she might get more petty about it. She will be embarassed and remember it forever.
What should I do, if I want to stay in this job?
This is not the first time and won't be the last time she is like that. That time, she accused my staff for not following up on something. When I checked with my staff (I also cannot remember so many things), my staff already email to her and cc to me, awaiting for her approval.
I have been angry at her every day and her voice, her footstep really zaps off my energy. The other job offer is still open for me. I guess I just hop over there. -
let me give you an example
2 head-of-dept were discussing on how to work together. the GM overheard and yelled "whatever decisions need to be made must come from my mouth. otherwise it does not count."
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The GM is what I call... "Control Freak"!Originally posted by dragg:let me give you an example
2 head-of-dept were discussing on how to work together. the GM overheard and yelled "whatever decisions need to be made must come from my mouth. otherwise it does not count." -
Be her Post-It. Keep her in the loop. Keep a list of “Things to do” and go through it before you start work every morning.
But of course you can always find a new job.
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BUT of cos there are real nice lady boss too. i have such boss currently..but it depend on her mood swing.
BUt i do have a collegue that do best in bootlicking (VERY OBVIOUS) and take credit from other people...this sort of person i despise ....
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ladies' as boss
-good welfare usually
-understanding
-appreciate little meaningful stuff that her employees does
-depends on mood..
-looks at short term and long term benefits
men as boss
-demanding (asking too much some times)
-practical
-able to separate between home & work
-at times will push blame/work to employees when they themselves cant handle
-look and focus more on long term benefits
so far that's what i think of bosses...
still prefer to be with female boss...
coz male boss, if cant hang around with them well (boot-licking) off goes a hard working life ahead -
u in which camp?Originally posted by laurence82:Gee, then you gotta see the old warrant officers in my camp
Lagi worse
sign on regular ar?
old ladies usually like that de, especially when they keep doing the same things over and over again..so they get fed up easily.. my ex-working place also like that...
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I've had about 5 lady bosses since I embarked on my career more than 10 years ago. 4 of them suck but my present one is marvellous, to say the least!
Lady bosses suck primarily because they tend to let their emotions dictate and thus become very wishy washy and lose the plot. This indecisiveness gives me endless headache as not having a common objective, it's impossible for me to produce the work that satisfies her.
Oso. lady bosses suck becoz they seem to pick on your short-comingsrather han your merits- no matter you have 100 merits and only 1 weakness, the lady boss will only see your flaw and disregard your strengths.
My present boss oso a lady is the exception from the norm. I can honestly say she's probably the best boss I've ever had to this day. Not only is she dynamite personified, she's oso very task-oriented: when there's work to do, do it to the best of your abilities and when it's time to relax and play, play hard! She's very flexible and fine with almost anything so long as you take care to get your work performed.
In addition, she is very easy going and associates with the staff as if we're one big family. She loves to share jokes and laughs loudly with us. She makes the staff feel very comfortable and our bond with her is very strong: She is us and we are she kind of thing.
Lasy but not least, she's got great looks to boot!!