What do you like about people?
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Originally posted by Kan_i:i am not sure if quiet types are effective on forums. somehow i feel their is a need to actually post rather than just read....
(incase i am only jokig) no lar , the quiet types dun exist in forums only ,but in reality where personally they r not the blow horns types
quiet people can always expressed their thoughts in wrting >> our friends here have somehow mentioned
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ermmm... as I mentioned, "When one is harrassed - you either choose to grin and bear it, for fears only answerable to yourself, OR you fight for your rights NOT to subject yourself to such a situation, even if it means that your job or your family is at stake."Originally posted by ha8n:accoording to you :: the forms of resilience means that to fight for your rights , but can this be done at the expense of your job in this society (( its apparent that you cannot answer to your
ba dao superiors though you are right when they are wrong)
you can...
>> on the other hand to take control of your own life , you can be resilience by choosing not to stay with them /or in ur job anymore...bcos ulitmately its always the employer /company whom gain at your own expense
We will never know what people face whenever they have to make a stand for themselves. The sacrifices, or the commitments that they may have to forego. Sometimes, more often than not, taking a firm stance on your rights will jeopardise your job at hand. Bottomline is "how much one values and respects oneself".
When it comes to a job, ultimately it is a working partnership between a huge corporation and the miniscule man on the street, to put it analogically, but it isn't true that it's always the company who benefits in the end.
Not when you love doing what you do.
Not when it pays the bills...
Not when there is a certain sense of satisfaction to be derived from your job itself.
For many people, work is almost a means to an end. It's about clocking in on time, and leaving on time. It's about mechanically doing what is needed to be done on a daily basis just for the paucheck at the end of the month. It's a necessary evil to their lives. For others who love doing what they do, the personal satisfaction that they get - is the primary motivation. -
Originally posted by Kan_i:i am not sure if quiet types are effective on forums. somehow i feel their is a need to actually post rather than just read....
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(incase i am only jokig)
Behind every joke, there is a little bit of the truth.Originally posted by ha8n: no lar , the quiet types dun exist in forums only ,but in reality where personally they r not the blow horns types
quiet people can always expressed their thoughts in wrting >> our friends here have somehow mentioned
( sometimes joking must b done sparingly )
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I like people who are brave enough to say 'sorry' not only when they are in the wrong. I know of many people whom dislike saying the word. Saying 'sorry' is like a sign of weakness but to me the simplest word is the most magical. I once have a friend who asked me how did I manage to become friends with Tim after i had just quarrelled with him a second ago. I told him that i just apologised to Tim. He seemed shock and burted out "Its Tim who hit u first." To me apologising is an effective method to mend a relationship effectively but not many have the same minset as me. Therefore i like people who dare so say "sorry"
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im not saying that EVERYONE who doesn' remember have never encounted it. but im SURE there are some people who've never encountered it, because the instance for encountering good service in sg is so small compared to other places.Originally posted by av98m:That can't be true. Overall our service standard is not very good, but there ARE service personnel out there who go above and beyond their duties to ensure that customers are happy. I've been on the receiving end of such service. Not often, but enough to know that there are such people around. Like I mentioned in another thread, human interaction is 2 way. Sometimes how you behave also determines what kind of service you end up receiving.
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i've made many friends in forums by arguing with them 1st.Originally posted by NewAge:I like people who are brave enough to say 'sorry' not only when they are in the wrong. I know of many people whom dislike saying the word. Saying 'sorry' is like a sign of weakness but to me the simplest word is the most magical. I once have a friend who asked me how did I manage to become friends with Tim after i had just quarrelled with him a second ago. I told him that i just apologised to Tim. He seemed shock and burted out "Its Tim who hit u first." To me apologising is an effective method to mend a relationship effectively but not many have the same minset as me. Therefore i like people who dare so say "sorry" -
I choose the people I want to be with.Originally posted by gohkatkat:no man is a single island.....always bear that in mind.
I hate hypocrites and greedy people. There's no way one can help them mend their ways. -
I feel exactly the same way.Originally posted by NewAge:I like people who are brave enough to say 'sorry' not only when they are in the wrong. I know of many people whom dislike saying the word. Saying 'sorry' is like a sign of weakness but to me the simplest word is the most magical. I once have a friend who asked me how did I manage to become friends with Tim after i had just quarrelled with him a second ago. I told him that i just apologised to Tim. He seemed shock and burted out "Its Tim who hit u first." To me apologising is an effective method to mend a relationship effectively but not many have the same minset as me. Therefore i like people who dare so say "sorry" Sorry seems to be the hardest word but it is the strongest word. -
some people always say sorry but never mean it.Originally posted by dinky1409:I feel exactly the same way. Sorry seems to be the hardest word but it is the strongest word.
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As long as it is not sarcastic, and it helps to better the situations, why not?Originally posted by Ito_^:some people always say sorry but never mean it.
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i think it worsen things. no trust for these sort of people after some time.Originally posted by dinky1409:As long as it is not sarcastic, and it helps to better the situations, why not? -
You are welcomeOriginally posted by BabyRS:Trust me when I say this... you're not the only one who feels that way.
Seriously though - perhaps if I appear "glossed over" (? for lack of a better term) - it's simply because I always leave my words open to interpretation. I will never force my values or beliefs down anyone's throat - and if in doing so, my text appears "contrived" or perhaps too good to be true, then that's something that may / may not work in my favour... depending on the situation. I would never intentionally "manipulate" others into seeing my points of view - although on another level, it may seem inclined to be so. It could also well be viewed as "condescending" and thoroughly patronising, much like how a parent placates a child.
Perhaps it's also due to the fact that I have always found it easier to place my thoughts in writing... and I DO recognise the power of words. It's funny about what you said regarding writing in magazines... although I'm not one, maybe the fact that I'm in print advertising has an (almost) imperceptible bearing to the way that I place my ideas forth. Only a few discerning ones who are sensitive to this style would recognise it for what its worth. Even *I* don't realise it, till you mentioned it. Many people have said it, in different ways - but I think I do understand why, now.
And for that, I thank you.
I see you too have a good knowledge of people, can read them and it's also not easy to fool you. That means you are sensitive and very perceptive. -
i agree. if u don't mean it in a good way, its better not to say it.Originally posted by Ito_^:i think it worsen things. no trust for these sort of people after some time.
if u wanna be the one who says sorry, then u have to be prepared to do it with the right attitude. -
Hmm depends I guess.. Because personally, I have, on occasions, swallowed my own pride and apologize when I'm not in the wrong. It takes really a lot to do that because that "injustice feeling" is so intense but in the end, seeing that the conflict or matter is resolved, it seems that apologizing was the right move. Think GF and parents...Originally posted by Ito_^:i think it worsen things. no trust for these sort of people after some time.
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Hmmm... a question:
If an apology is made as a "shaddap tactic" - does that make it okay?
I personally would prefer to talk about / discuss the problem that have lead to the reason an apology is "needed" rather than to have someone apologise (or vice versa) just to keep the peace.
Resentment, pushed to the back of the mind can build up over time - especially when you don't feel that you should apologise. -
i knew someone long ago who insisted that people apologise to her before anything.. and she'll lose it totally anyway...
ultimately, everyone resented her and it gave way to everyone just not talking to her anymore and avoiding her...
so, like baby said, the resentment builds up..Originally posted by dinky1409:Hmm depends I guess.. Because personally, I have, on occasions, swallowed my own pride and apologize when I'm not in the wrong. It takes really a lot to do that because that "injustice feeling" is so intense but in the end, seeing that the conflict or matter is resolved, it seems that apologizing was the right move. Think GF and parents... -
>> these points and previous explain/ reiterate on the whole you need to take charge of yourOriginally posted by BabyRS:Hmmm... a question:
If an apology is made as a "shaddap tactic" - does that make it okay?
I personally would prefer to talk about / discuss the problem that have lead to the reason an apology is "needed" rather than to have someone apologise (or vice versa) just to keep the peace.
Resentment, pushed to the back of the mind can build up over time - especially when you don't feel that you should apologise.
life , not letting someone to do that ....
>>and yeah about the joke , its the same sweeping generalisation that the person has made...***does it mean that all whom are in forums and posted comments are incapable of views n experiences that they 12 share**
>>then is it the person also firing himself this way as its applies to himself also
... thats y at times we want to do justice
by stating that we cannot catch all jokes ....me also can be joking if i post somethin that i do not think twice...
>>however there r some truth as u have encountered some whom find satisfaction in their jobs ---
Not bcos they 12 pay bills
Not bcos the money is worth it .. or etc >>>
It still boils down to the strongest inner "take control" of your life that you 12 do the job for long.....
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i agree. saying sorry does not automatically make things ok. It has to depend on the way and the attitude its done in.Originally posted by BabyRS:Hmmm... a question:
If an apology is made as a "shaddap tactic" - does that make it okay?
I personally would prefer to talk about / discuss the problem that have lead to the reason an apology is "needed" rather than to have someone apologise (or vice versa) just to keep the peace.
Resentment, pushed to the back of the mind can build up over time - especially when you don't feel that you should apologise. -
True true..Originally posted by HENG@:i agree. saying sorry does not automatically make things ok. It has to depend on the way and the attitude its done in. -
you know, changing someones opinion is just not worth the time and effort. Sometimes just to get the whole matter done with, I have no problems with giving an outwardly sincere, "Yeah, I see your point, ok." and just moving on. Or just apologizing. No skin off my back. I don't have to force people to my viewpoint or do I have to get apologizes when I think I'm right.
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i see your point, i have been told many times to "pick my battles"..
however, some things, you have to argue with idiots.. because too much is at stake.. like where i worked, because i had the guts to argue with the idiot bosses who were just scared to death of doing the right thing (will rock the boat) they try to tekan the frontline rank and file...
i'm the team leader of the guys.. if i do not stand up for them, no one else will.. so i argue with the bosses.. and look after my team..
it would have been easier to just "yeah.. okay.." but the cost would have been the morale of the team and they would not trust me, and therefore work would be impossible to do..
what i like about people? those with cajones of steel... them, i try to emulateOriginally posted by kivichio:you know, changing someones opinion is just not worth the time and effort. Sometimes just to get the whole matter done with, I have no problems with giving an outwardly sincere, "Yeah, I see your point, ok." and just moving on. Or just apologizing. No skin off my back. I don't have to force people to my viewpoint or do I have to get apologizes when I think I'm right.
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in the end, its a fine line between taking up arms against certain things and keeping the peace for other situations.
Personally I admit I stand more on the side of conflict, even though I long more for peace. Sometimes though, u can't have a lasting peace without a conflict to resolve differences. -
Hmm.. Agreed but someone would eventually have to give way in a conflict right? If not the differences would not be resolved right?Originally posted by HENG@:in the end, its a fine line between taking up arms against certain things and keeping the peace for other situations.
Personally I admit I stand more on the side of conflict, even though I long more for peace. Sometimes though, u can't have a lasting peace without a conflict to resolve differences. -
Hey I made friends this way tooOriginally posted by HENG@:i've made many friends in forums by arguing with them 1st.
An example:
There is someone whom I didn't see eye-to-eye too and neither did he. LOL. In fact we complained about each other to our mutual friends And strangely enough one day, in game, there was no one logged on but the 2 of us and since that day we realised that we just misunderstood each other previously
In fact the scary thing is that he is we are so similar that we confuse our gaming friends now Kinda like kindred spirits -
Well... I have to like people , it can get boring conversing with the voices in my head.
I like it when people prove me wrong.
"You can't be that dumb... what the - you ARE that dumb!! "
Thankfully many times people prove me wrong in a good way too .