Questions For Christians
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HA HA it is meant to be introspectiion lah, no need to understand, allow and it will avail u to .... will try to simplify
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Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
I have some questions, hopefully people here can answer and then I have a better understanding as well...
1) Why didn't the Bible says anything about like the extinction of Dinosaurs or about T-Rex etc?
2) How do we know that the Bible wasn't written by the Devil in an attempt to deceive us to go to Hell? I mean we do know from Bible teachings that he's a really really really smart Devil having lived so many years more than humans, he certainly can deceive people easily since he even deceived Adam & Eve.
3) Why did the Bible say that the universe was created 6000 years ago? I mean, that conflicts with science that says the universe is many millions years old.
4) I believe God is against incest? But when he created Adam & Eve, then in order to populate Earth, then incest is quite obvious will happen, isn't it contradictory to say Yes last time and then say No now?
5) If everyone comes from Adam & Eve, then shouldn't we all be Ang Moh instead of some Asians, some Africans... I mean we certainly don't expect African couple, even with 100 generations later, suddenly give birth to a Chinese dude? LOL I would suspect my wife is cheating on me!!!
Someone who can answer these questions please help. Personally, I believe in God but it's damn irritating to have unanswered questions.
Regarding question 3
Science are never 100% accurate and often modifying...
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth will tell you the age of the world...
The science in this website says the earth wasnt that old...Regarding question 1 then...
The bible did mention about dinosaurs, just that it did not talk about their extinction...
In fact, they co existed with Adam and Eve!
Noah's ark did have them too, well, dino aint really that big we imagine them to be... Only a few are big...
So what happen to the big one?
Of course we didn't have to bring the big one in, we 2 of every the same species! The bible didn't state the age of the dino...
But big dinosaurs should have big eggs? nah...
"They tend to be ovoid or spherical in shape and up to 30cm in length" said from this website http://www.thedinosaurmuseum.com/html/dinosaur-facts.html30cm... hmm...
what i saw in another article was 50cm... the baby or at most in their teenage year should be pretty small even for the largest dinasaur...
And ya, the ark is HUGE!Question 2...
the devil has no power over the word of God...
the word of God is the truth...
the word of God is our sword against the devil...Question 4.
Yes, God is indeed against incest now, but not the past...
One example is that abraham taken a half sister as his wife, but wasnt sin because of that...The law against marrying close relative only come during moses time, way beyond abraham or adam and eve time...Why is that so? It's because of genetics problems...
Today, one of the reason we do not marry close relative is because of genes problem...
And that problem wasn't there in the past because human were almost genetically perfect...
But after gereneration and generation, the genes start to have error...
so at moses time, he gave this law to protect us from this genetic problem...So why do human start to have genetic problem? Isn't God's creation all perfect?
Yes, it was perfect. But because Adam sin and death came.
before he sin, there was no death.Question 5.
Genesis 11, that is where God change everyone language and race...
Because they wasn't doing what God wanted them to do...
God ask them to be fruitful and multiply, and to fill the earth...
But they wanted to stay together and build a tower and do not want to be scattered...
So God came down and changes everyone language, and the we then disperse...
After that, it's prolly about the gene and the enviroment that changes their skin colour, the amount of melanin, the colouring pigment found in everyone's skin...
I got this from a website:
"The dispersion at Babel broke up a large interbreeding group into
small inbreeding groups. This ensured that the resultant groups
would have different mixes of genes for various physical features. By
itself, this dispersion would ensure, in a short time, that there would
be certain fixed differences in some of these groups, commonly
called ‘races’. In addition, the selection pressure of the environment
would modify the existing combinations of genes so that the physical
characteristics of each group would tend to suit their environment.
There has been no simple-to-complex evolution of any genes, for
the genes were present already. The dominant features of the various
people groups result from different combinations of previously existing created genes, plus some minor degenerative changes,
resulting from mutation (accidental changes which can be inherited).
The originally created (genetic) information has been either reshuffled
or has degenerated, but has not been added to."Hope this can answer your question... I prolly didn't really explain in great details cus when I learn these, it was a whole big chunk of information... I can't just possibly spam everything here lols
And again, our God is a mysterious God :)
"He who has ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15 -
Originally posted by popikachu:
Regarding question 3
Science are never 100% accurate and often modifying...
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth will tell you the age of the world...
The science in this website says the earth wasnt that old...Regarding question 1 then...
The bible did mention about dinosaurs, just that it did not talk about their extinction...
In fact, they co existed with Adam and Eve!
Noah's ark did have them too, well, dino aint really that big we imagine them to be... Only a few are big...
So what happen to the big one?
Of course we didn't have to bring the big one in, we 2 of every the same species! The bible didn't state the age of the dino...
But big dinosaurs should have big eggs? nah...
"They tend to be ovoid or spherical in shape and up to 30cm in length" said from this website http://www.thedinosaurmuseum.com/html/dinosaur-facts.html30cm... hmm...
what i saw in another article was 50cm... the baby or at most in their teenage year should be pretty small even for the largest dinasaur...
And ya, the ark is HUGE!Question 2...
the devil has no power over the word of God...
the word of God is the truth...
the word of God is our sword against the devil...Question 4.
Yes, God is indeed against incest now, but not the past...
One example is that abraham taken a half sister as his wife, but wasnt sin because of that...The law against marrying close relative only come during moses time, way beyond abraham or adam and eve time...Why is that so? It's because of genetics problems...
Today, one of the reason we do not marry close relative is because of genes problem...
And that problem wasn't there in the past because human were almost genetically perfect...
But after gereneration and generation, the genes start to have error...
so at moses time, he gave this law to protect us from this genetic problem...So why do human start to have genetic problem? Isn't God's creation all perfect?
Yes, it was perfect. But because Adam sin and death came.
before he sin, there was no death.Question 5.
Genesis 11, that is where God change everyone language and race...
Because they wasn't doing what God wanted them to do...
God ask them to be fruitful and multiply, and to fill the earth...
But they wanted to stay together and build a tower and do not want to be scattered...
So God came down and changes everyone language, and the we then disperse...
After that, it's prolly about the gene and the enviroment that changes their skin colour, the amount of melanin, the colouring pigment found in everyone's skin...
I got this from a website:
"The dispersion at Babel broke up a large interbreeding group into
small inbreeding groups. This ensured that the resultant groups
would have different mixes of genes for various physical features. By
itself, this dispersion would ensure, in a short time, that there would
be certain fixed differences in some of these groups, commonly
called ‘races’. In addition, the selection pressure of the environment
would modify the existing combinations of genes so that the physical
characteristics of each group would tend to suit their environment.
There has been no simple-to-complex evolution of any genes, for
the genes were present already. The dominant features of the various
people groups result from different combinations of previously existing created genes, plus some minor degenerative changes,
resulting from mutation (accidental changes which can be inherited).
The originally created (genetic) information has been either reshuffled
or has degenerated, but has not been added to."Hope this can answer your question... I prolly didn't really explain in great details cus when I learn these, it was a whole big chunk of information... I can't just possibly spam everything here lols
And again, our God is a mysterious God :)
"He who has ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15
wow, thanks pikachu... i came in thinking maybe some other funny replies but i see answers!!! at page 4!!! finally!!!i did some research on my own the last few days also but thanks for the answers. It's really good to see someone aid me out here.
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Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
wow, thanks pikachu... i came in thinking maybe some other funny replies but i see answers!!! at page 4!!! finally!!!i did some research on my own the last few days also but thanks for the answers. It's really good to see someone aid me out here.
Actually if you take the time to visit the website Creation.com which I referred to many times in my postings you would find these answers too. But then atheists like Tcmc dislike this website because they are Christian websites and thus biased and thus unreliable and thus wrong. Of course he did not prove them, he just make the allegations and think they stick. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Actually if you take the time to visit the website Creation.com which I referred to many times in my postings you would find these answers too. But then atheists like Tcmc dislike this website because they are Christian websites and thus biased and thus unreliable and thus wrong. Of course he did not prove them, he just make the allegations and think they stick.
I posted my replies saying I went there and spent half hour to an hour and can't find the answer to my question lah... if the answers are on the front page it's ok I can see, but I search and search, I can't possibly search 10 years to answer a simple question. My friend ask me go surf pornchristians.com better, no need waste time. Everyone can ask me to go to their preferred christian sites, that's why my friend suggests porn site because that's his fave christian site so he ask me do find answers there... but does it make sense? -
Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
I posted my replies saying I went there and spent half hour to an hour and can't find the answer to my question lah... if the answers are on the front page it's ok I can see, but I search and search, I can't possibly search 10 years to answer a simple question. My friend ask me go surf pornchristians.com better, no need waste time. Everyone can ask me to go to their preferred christian sites, that's why my friend suggests porn site because that's his fave christian site so he ask me do find answers there... but does it make sense?
Your intention to insult by comparing Creation.com to a porn site was uncalled for. I am simply telling you that you can EASILY find the answers there. No need 10 years. If you had spent even 10 seconds at Creation.com you would have noticed the Q&A section and found many questions arranged by topics. Another 10 seconds and you would be reading answers to your questions. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Your intention to insult by comparing Creation.com to a porn site was uncalled for. I am simply telling you that you can EASILY find the answers there. No need 10 years. If you had spent even 10 seconds at Creation.com you would have noticed the Q&A section and found many questions arranged by topics. Another 10 seconds and you would be reading answers to your questions.
Hey dude, in no way am I comparing a christian site to a porn site lah!!! Please don't misinterpret my words sia, that's dangerous, I want to go heaven, not hell.Priest lah! priest lah! you read properly, I mentioned my friend saw me on sgforums posting and he mention the porn site one...
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Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
wow, thanks pikachu... i came in thinking maybe some other funny replies but i see answers!!! at page 4!!! finally!!!i did some research on my own the last few days also but thanks for the answers. It's really good to see someone aid me out here.
although bic replies are... erm a little hostile but creation.com is a really good website to find out the answer for question...
though, sometimes, some question are hard to answer... like how science can explain everything...
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Originally posted by popikachu:
although bic replies are... erm a little hostile but creation.com is a really good website to find out the answer for question...
though, sometimes, some question are hard to answer... like how science can explain everything...
I can assure you that though my words may be strong I am gentle in person. In debates and repartee I employ different strokes for different folks. Anyway I am happy to know that you think well of Creation.com for I have been much blessed by this ministry. Have you been to their talks before? -
Originally posted by popikachu:
although bic replies are... erm a little hostile but creation.com is a really good website to find out the answer for question...
though, sometimes, some question are hard to answer... like how science can explain everything...
Science is very limited in knowledge if you asks me, even until now, whatever science knowledge humans know, I am guessing it's only 1% or even less. If I have time I can explain why so but anyway, I think science can explain everything but with 1% knowledge, we are just not there yet. -
Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
Science is very limited in knowledge if you asks me, even until now, whatever science knowledge humans know, I am guessing it's only 1% or even less. If I have time I can explain why so but anyway, I think science can explain everything but with 1% knowledge, we are just not there yet.
Can science truly explain everything? You seem confident to say so. I beg to differ. For example science can describe how things work and call certain regular phenomena "laws if nature" but can science tell us why they exist at all? Can science tell us why we can even know anything at all, to be able to seek to understand how nature works, although even so we only know in part? Science cannot explain everything because its methods are limited to the domain of that which can be observed and tested repeatedly. In fact, the philosophy of science seeks to explain such things. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Can science truly explain everything? You seem confident to say so. I beg to differ. For example science can describe how things work and call certain regular phenomena "laws if nature" but can science tell us why they exist at all? Can science tell us why we can even know anything at all, to be able to seek to understand how nature works, although even so we only know in part? Science cannot explain everything because its methods are limited to the domain of that which can be observed and tested repeatedly. In fact, the philosophy of science seeks to explain such things.If there's really a creator, the creator should be providing all the answers in the book instead of letting Scientists to find out all the answers. The creator should be providing answer like how he himself comes about instead of waiting for people to question if there's a creator, then who creates the creator?
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
If there's really a creator, the creator should be providing all the answers in the book instead of letting Scientists to find out all the answers. The creator should be providing answer like how he himself comes about instead of waiting for people to question if there's a creator, then who creates the creator?
absolutely. they cant even get the facts right such as this.
earth was round
earth was at least 6 billion years, not 6000 years.its unbelievable to think a planet the size of earth existed only 6000 years. chinese ancient history around 5000 years already.
how can you believe in an ancient book written by ancient unknown men/women? its utter nonsense and full of fanciful tales. I dunno how can people believed in these in this day and age.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
If there's really a creator, the creator should be providing all the answers in the book instead of letting Scientists to find out all the answers. The creator should be providing answer like how he himself comes about instead of waiting for people to question if there's a creator, then who creates the creator?
You keep saying God should this and should that. Justify your "should". And please justify why the Creator should be obligated to the created when the created owes its very existence to the Creator. -
Originally posted by popikachu:
Regarding question 3
Science are never 100% accurate and often modifying...
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth will tell you the age of the world...
The science in this website says the earth wasnt that old...Regarding question 1 then...
The bible did mention about dinosaurs, just that it did not talk about their extinction...
In fact, they co existed with Adam and Eve!
Noah's ark did have them too, well, dino aint really that big we imagine them to be... Only a few are big...
So what happen to the big one?
Of course we didn't have to bring the big one in, we 2 of every the same species! The bible didn't state the age of the dino...
But big dinosaurs should have big eggs? nah...
"They tend to be ovoid or spherical in shape and up to 30cm in length" said from this website http://www.thedinosaurmuseum.com/html/dinosaur-facts.html30cm... hmm...
what i saw in another article was 50cm... the baby or at most in their teenage year should be pretty small even for the largest dinasaur...
And ya, the ark is HUGE!Question 2...
the devil has no power over the word of God...
the word of God is the truth...
the word of God is our sword against the devil...Question 4.
Yes, God is indeed against incest now, but not the past...
One example is that abraham taken a half sister as his wife, but wasnt sin because of that...The law against marrying close relative only come during moses time, way beyond abraham or adam and eve time...Why is that so? It's because of genetics problems...
Today, one of the reason we do not marry close relative is because of genes problem...
And that problem wasn't there in the past because human were almost genetically perfect...
But after gereneration and generation, the genes start to have error...
so at moses time, he gave this law to protect us from this genetic problem...So why do human start to have genetic problem? Isn't God's creation all perfect?
Yes, it was perfect. But because Adam sin and death came.
before he sin, there was no death.Question 5.
Genesis 11, that is where God change everyone language and race...
Because they wasn't doing what God wanted them to do...
God ask them to be fruitful and multiply, and to fill the earth...
But they wanted to stay together and build a tower and do not want to be scattered...
So God came down and changes everyone language, and the we then disperse...
After that, it's prolly about the gene and the enviroment that changes their skin colour, the amount of melanin, the colouring pigment found in everyone's skin...
I got this from a website:
"The dispersion at Babel broke up a large interbreeding group into
small inbreeding groups. This ensured that the resultant groups
would have different mixes of genes for various physical features. By
itself, this dispersion would ensure, in a short time, that there would
be certain fixed differences in some of these groups, commonly
called ‘races’. In addition, the selection pressure of the environment
would modify the existing combinations of genes so that the physical
characteristics of each group would tend to suit their environment.
There has been no simple-to-complex evolution of any genes, for
the genes were present already. The dominant features of the various
people groups result from different combinations of previously existing created genes, plus some minor degenerative changes,
resulting from mutation (accidental changes which can be inherited).
The originally created (genetic) information has been either reshuffled
or has degenerated, but has not been added to."Hope this can answer your question... I prolly didn't really explain in great details cus when I learn these, it was a whole big chunk of information... I can't just possibly spam everything here lols
And again, our God is a mysterious God :)
"He who has ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:151. The verse you say that mentions ddinosaurs is in book of Job. The verse DOES NOT say it is dinosaurs. In fact many many theologians and christian historians say that the verse MIGHT be implying to elephants or crocodiles or hippos. You have to look at other perspectives. It does not say explicitly that it is dinosaurs that Job saw.
2. About the devil, if God is allknowing and already knew that adam and eve would fail the test, why did he still insist to test them by putting the fruit so near them? Would you test if your children are obedient by putting a knife to seeif they kill each other, when you know they WILL kill each other?
3. You said God is against incest now but not in the past. Ah I SEE, so God's moral stands do change according to culture and society?
4. You get your answers from christian sources and christian websites. You commit the error of confirmation bias.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
PLS read about this before you reply to this point
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
You keep saying God should this and should that. Justify your "should". And please justify why the Creator should be obligated to the created when the created owes its very existence to the Creator.Well you guys claim he/she is allknowing.
So he/she SHOULD know bats are mammals.
But in the bible, it says bats are birds.
And dont tell me because he/she had to tell ancient men that bats are birds because they were not educated about science.
If he/she is allknowuing, creative and powerful, you mean he cant find a good way to tell them that bats are mammals and give birth to the young?
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Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
Science is very limited in knowledge if you asks me, even until now, whatever science knowledge humans know, I am guessing it's only 1% or even less. If I have time I can explain why so but anyway, I think science can explain everything but with 1% knowledge, we are just not there yet.Science is simply knowledge... if you have all the knowledge, of course can explain everything... but the thing is, it is impossible to have all the knowledge... Only God have...
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Originally posted by popikachu:
Science is simply knowledge... if you have all the knowledge, of course can explain everything... but the thing is, it is impossible to have all the knowledge... Only God have...
yes god is omniscient and omnipotent I know. but it exists in the bible
just like superman exists in DC Comics
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:yes god is omniscient and omnipotent I know. but it exists in the bible
just like superman exists in DC Comics
Jacky
LOL.
Your classic statements!
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
1. The verse you say that mentions ddinosaurs is in book of Job. The verse DOES NOT say it is dinosaurs. In fact many many theologians and christian historians say that the verse MIGHT be implying to elephants or crocodiles or hippos. You have to look at other perspectives. It does not say explicitly that it is dinosaurs that Job saw.
2. About the devil, if God is allknowing and already knew that adam and eve would fail the test, why did he still insist to test them by putting the fruit so near them? Would you test if your children are obedient by putting a knife to seeif they kill each other, when you know they WILL kill each other?
3. You said God is against incest now but not in the past. Ah I SEE, so God's moral stands do change according to culture and society?
4. You get your answers from christian sources and christian websites. You commit the error of confirmation bias.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
PLS read about this before you reply to this point
Tcmc,
Have you ever stared at the bums of elephants or hippos? You should! Our world famous zoo is open 7 days a week. Make a trip down one of these days and stare at them (not lustfully of course LOL!) and then report back to us whether elephants or hippos have the tail the size of a cedar tree. I gather you KNOW what a cedar tree look like bro?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Well you guys claim he/she is allknowing.
So he/she SHOULD know bats are mammals.
But in the bible, it says bats are birds.
And dont tell me because he/she had to tell ancient men that bats are birds because they were not educated about science.
If he/she is allknowuing, creative and powerful, you mean he cant find a good way to tell them that bats are mammals and give birth to the young?
Tcmc,
You are acting daft. Already told you that the Hebrew word used is "winged creature". A bat and a bird are both winged creatures. Comprehende? No deh?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Tcmc,
You are acting daft. Already told you that the Hebrew word used is "winged creature". A bat and a bird are both winged creatures. Comprehende? No deh?
Strange.
Why would god want to use such terms and then lead scribes to use the wrong word "bird" and then lead us to accuse him of not being allknowing?
Strange huh?
Isnt it more convenient and efficient to straight away put "mammals"?
How hard is that seriously, for an allknowing, creative and allpowerful god?
How hard is it to teach the tribes about the word mammal and then inspired them to write mammals?
How hard?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Tcmc,
Have you ever stared at the bums of elephants or hippos? You should! Our world famous zoo is open 7 days a week. Make a trip down one of these days and stare at them (not lustfully of course LOL!) and then report back to us whether elephants or hippos have the tail the size of a cedar tree. I gather you KNOW what a cedar tree look like bro?
Now you take that "tail like a cedar" verse literally! When do you take verses literally and when do you take verses metaphorically?
Maybe he was referring to dragons or crocodiles? After all, the bible does talk about dragons and unicorns.
How do you know job was referring to dinosaurs specifically?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Strange.
Why would god want to use such terms and then lead scribes to use the wrong word "bird" and then lead us to accuse him of not being allknowing?
Strange huh?
Isnt it more convenient and efficient to straight away put "mammals"?
How hard is that seriously, for an allknowing, creative and allpowerful god?
How hard is it to teach the tribes about the word mammal and then inspired them to write mammals?
How hard?
How hard is it seriously for you to understand that "winged creature" is NOT a wrong term to use for birds and bats? Saying something is a mammal does not say anything about its flight capability. I can imagine that if the Bible lumps bats and cows as mammals you would quibble over saying that the Bible failed to make distinction between flying mammals and non-flying mammals. Point is, Bible critics like you will always find something to make an issue out of it. Why? Bible bashing mode mah!
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Now you take that "tail like a cedar" verse literally! When do you take verses literally and when do you take verses metaphorically?
Maybe he was referring to dragons or crocodiles? After all, the bible does talk about dragons and unicorns.
How do you know job was referring to dinosaurs specifically?
See? Again you show yourself woefully ignorant about HOW to interpret the Bible. You never had any doctrinal foundation, never learned how to study and interpret the Bible, and now pretend to be some knowledgeable atheist who can enlighten believers and nonbelievers about why the Bible should be cast aside? Tcmc, you are really a fraud.