I've always wanted to ask this...
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Originally posted by AIex:
If humans are descended from Adam and Eve, then who do Adam and Eve's children mate with?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Also, if all religions in the entire world are just different subjects eg. Chem, bio, literature, sociology, physics, maths etc. Who will say chem is more accurate/true than physics ? Or bio is more accurate/true than maths ? Just my tot....
can you use chem and physics to prove why a picasso painting is worth more than its weight in gold? can you use accuracy to describe any poem or songs?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
So what did God or the bible said about aliens? Are there such beings at all ?
In Japan, I am an alien !!
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Really? I duuno leh...u sure ? Any christians wanna say something?
UFO stands for unidentified object. You know what it is?
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cao feng feng cao cao feng feng cao
feng chi
yao bu de the xing wei shi ji du tu bu nen you de
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
I have this weird feeling that we are not alone in the entire universe....with billions of stars / planets/galaxies out there, the chances are pretty high that elsewhere will have some kind of intelligent life-form...otherwise, it'll be an awful waste of space....Hahaha!
Not just in the universe, I believe that there are supernatural beings, that man cannot see, and many think they are not around. hahaha...
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like the Ultimate Beverage: Milo
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
Not just in the universe, I believe that there are supernatural beings, that man cannot see, and many think they are not around. hahaha...
sgdiehard,
Yea at least you are in the same line as hindus, muslims, sikhs, taoists, buddhists who all believe taht there is a supernatural world of spirits, angels, ghosts and Gods!
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
can you use chem and physics to prove why a picasso painting is worth more than its weight in gold? can you use accuracy to describe any poem or songs?
Hahaha! That's why...we can't just stick to one subject and claim that its the "truth"...
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Demon Bane,
Precisely, that's the way life is. How do we know anything?
1. Personal Experience
2. Authority (parents, teachers, professors, scientists, sacred books etc)
When it comes to intelligent life out there, short of you going to outer space by yourself, we simply have to depend on what others say, those we consider as authorities. Humanly speaking, no one has seen intelligent life aka little green men out there. If Buddha is your choice of authority, then you just have to trust what he says.
BIC
about this post, you still havent explained to me why you use special pleading for your heaven and hell.
When it comes to outer space, you implied that we have to go there ourselves if not we can never be sure if there is alien life.
But when it comes to your eternal heaven and hell, you say with 100% confidence that theres no need to go there to confirm that there are such places. You just know.
Why the special pleading? Why your places so favourable, dont need evidence? But outer space alien life you suddenly need evidence?
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
Not just in the universe, I believe that there are supernatural beings, that man cannot see, and many think they are not around. hahaha...
U mean ghosts and spirits and demons/angels ? Well our Tcmc dun think those exists leh...not the supernatural...existence of those things can't be proven ....
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BIC,
You also did not explain to me why you can use the bible for evidence (you mentioned a few posts back about me ignoring the evidence in the bible) and if i use the quran as evidence, you immediately reject it?
SPecial pleading again?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
sgdiehard,
Yea at least you are in the same line as hindus, muslims, sikhs, taoists, buddhists who all believe taht there is a supernatural world of spirits, angels, ghosts and Gods!
yea, we all agree that the sun rises from the east.
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Hahaha! That's why...we can't just stick to one subject and claim that its the "truth"...
you can't give evidence for beauty, you can't prove love....there are many many more in life that man cannot understand nor prove. That is why I say a top business graduate is not necessarily a good business man, a philosopher may not be happy in life...because they try to prove the truth, but they know not what truth is.
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
U mean ghosts and spirits and demons/angels ? Well our Tcmc dun think those exists leh...not the supernatural...existence of those things can't be proven ....
Tcmc don't believe in this, don't agree with that, but I don't know what he actually believes. But it doesn't matter. Trying to prove something that you do not agree, that is going around in circle.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
you can't give evidence for beauty, you can't prove love....there are many many more in life that man cannot understand nor prove. That is why I say a top business graduate is not necessarily a good business man, a philosopher may not be happy in life...because they try to prove the truth, but they know not what truth is.
Exactly...well said !
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
Tcmc don't believe in this, don't agree with that, but I don't know what he actually believes. But it doesn't matter. Trying to prove something that you do not agree, that is going around in circle.
No ah, i do accept that you are in the same position as hindus, sikhs and muslims regarding the supernatural world.
At least your beliefs have some common ground with other religions!
Actually my lack in belief of the supernatural world is the same lack of belief you have for elves, fairies or santa claus.
Ask yourself why you lack belief in fairies and elves.
Your reason is the same as mine why I lack belief in a supernatural world.
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
U mean ghosts and spirits and demons/angels ? Well our Tcmc dun think those exists leh...not the supernatural...existence of those things can't be proven ....
Actually my lack in belief of the supernatural world is the same lack of belief you have for elves, fairies or santa claus.
Ask yourself why you lack belief in fairies and elves.
Your reason is the same as mine why I lack belief in a supernatural world.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Actually my lack in belief of the supernatural world is the same lack of belief you have for elves, fairies or santa claus.
Ask yourself why you lack belief in fairies and elves.
Your reason is the same as mine why I lack belief in a supernatural world.
Well, then do you believe the power of "sub-conscious mind" ?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Well, then do you believe the power of "sub-conscious mind" ?
Cant comment on that as I have not read or studied about it enough :)
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Actually my lack in belief of the supernatural world is the same lack of belief you have for elves, fairies or santa claus.
Ask yourself why you lack belief in fairies and elves.
Your reason is the same as mine why I lack belief in a supernatural world.
yes it is absurd to believe in a supernatural being that is creator of all things. this type of belief system was as old as mankind, which was ancient and obsolete in this day ad age of science and technology era. now science has explained that alot of things are nature, natural phenomenon taking its course. anyway physics has proven that the universe does not need to have a creator god. if you ask me, I rather trust science anytime than god concept, which was a fallacy to begin with.
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Well, we must at some point of time believe in things we cannot see, like the new science discovery of "Dark Matter"...perhaps some day the existence of ghosts/spirits/gods/demons/angels all can be proven? Hahaha!
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
about this post, you still havent explained to me why you use special pleading for your heaven and hell.
When it comes to outer space, you implied that we have to go there ourselves if not we can never be sure if there is alien life.
But when it comes to your eternal heaven and hell, you say with 100% confidence that theres no need to go there to confirm that there are such places. You just know.
Why the special pleading? Why your places so favourable, dont need evidence? But outer space alien life you suddenly need evidence?
You conveniently forgot that Jesus came from heaven, and told us how to get there. But of course, you REFUSE to believe that.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
You conveniently forgot that Jesus came from heaven, and told us how to get there. But of course, you REFUSE to believe that.
BIC
You failed to answer my question.
You applied special pleading. You twisted your argument.
You said --
For heaven and hell - no need to go there to know they exist
For outer space - need to go there to know theres alien life
Why special pleading? Why suddenly change your argument for outer spacE?
Moreover, there is much more studies and evidence supporting possibility of alien life than possibility of heaven and hell..
Say its by faith, and I will let this go
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Well, we must at some point of time believe in things we cannot see, like the new science discovery of "Dark Matter"...perhaps some day the existence of ghosts/spirits/gods/demons/angels all can be proven? Hahaha!
Perhaps one day, science can also prove that there are elves and fairies and magic teapots beyond our universe.
But for now, lets just not waste our time speculating about things that has no evidence. Because there are MANY things that are possible.