Jesus was a Hindu Monk and Survived the Cross
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
everyone is a suspect here
only you know it 
despondent is not BIC la..
BIC is on a monologue.
despondent isnt.
Both styles very different
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So all religions have a common goal....lead people away from ignorance and into happiness....if not, its not effective and we may have to find true happiness elsewhere....
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Some ppl make religion bashing their true happiness.
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Another similarity is that some people believed and hinted that "pain is the pathway to higher consciousness" A thing early humans practice....(even before buddhism)....Also some priests do that? So did Jesus did the same?.....Hmmm....
Demon Bane,
The Bible teaches that pain, suffering, death are intrusions into the perfect creation. Such came about because of man's sinful rebellion against God's law not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Instead of depending on God and trusting what God said, man wanted to be independent of God and trust in the serpent to doubt the goodness of God. And the wages of sin is death. Today there is a lot of pain in this world. CS Lewis said that pain is God's megaphone to the world that He is there. Many think that the existence of pain reflects the non-existence of God. But the converse is true. The existence of pain is a reflection of a sin-cursed world, it is part of God's judgement on sin. And yet God is no stranger to pain. He endured the cross to atone for our sins. Through pain and death God in Christ brought about eternal life for all who would obey. Just as through one man (Adam) death came into the world, so through one man (Jesus the second Adam) life comes to all who would believe.
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Originally posted by despondent:
Some ppl make religion bashing their true happiness.
ya loh.
wonder who is bashing religions here.
Every religion got unique points to appreciate!
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Originally posted by despondent:
Some ppl make religion bashing their true happiness.
Lets not be consumed by our petty differences and honestly appreciate other's view points....its still religious freedom in Singapore....Hahaha!
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Demon Bane,
The Bible teaches that pain, suffering, death are intrusions into the perfect creation. Such came about because of man's sinful rebellion against God's law not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Instead of depending on God and trusting what God said, man wanted to be independent of God and trust in the serpent to doubt the goodness of God. And the wages of sin is death. Today there is a lot of pain in this world. CS Lewis said that pain is God's megaphone to the world that He is there. Many think that the existence of pain reflects the non-existence of God. But the converse is true. The existence of pain is a reflection of a sin-cursed world, it is part of God's judgement on sin. And yet God is no stranger to pain. He endured the cross to atone for our sins. Through pain and death God in Christ brought about eternal life for all who would obey. Just as through one man (Adam) death came into the world, so through one man (Jesus the second Adam) life comes to all who would believe.
BIC
Good that you are sharing your religion.
Like how a Muslim and a Buddhist recently used their Scriptures to share to me too!
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Anybody wanna correct my thinking?
I think it is rather disingenuous to cobble any three things together and label them a trinity and then somehow imply that every religion also have their trinity and thus Christianity is hardly unique. I have been through this issue before with Tcmc.
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Lets not be consumed by our petty differences and honestly appreciate other's view points....its still religious freedom in Singapore....Hahaha!
yes every religion is beautiful in its own way!
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
I think it is rather disingenuous to cobble any three things together and label them a trinity and then somehow imply that every religion also have their trinity and thus Christianity is hardly unique. I have been through this issue before with Tcmc.
No no BIC,
you misunderstood me.
I didnt say christianity is hardly unique.
I said
EVERY religion has its unique point!
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Demon Bane,
The Bible teaches that pain, suffering, death are intrusions into the perfect creation. Such came about because of man's sinful rebellion against God's law not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Instead of depending on God and trusting what God said, man wanted to be independent of God and trust in the serpent to doubt the goodness of God. And the wages of sin is death. Today there is a lot of pain in this world. CS Lewis said that pain is God's megaphone to the world that He is there. Many think that the existence of pain reflects the non-existence of God. But the converse is true. The existence of pain is a reflection of a sin-cursed world, it is part of God's judgement on sin. And yet God is no stranger to pain. He endured the cross to atone for our sins. Through pain and death God in Christ brought about eternal life for all who would obey. Just as through one man (Adam) death came into the world, so through one man (Jesus the second Adam) life comes to all who would believe.
Okay....nice points....
From a christian perspective....you are absolutely right.... -
Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Lets not be consumed by our petty differences and honestly appreciate other's view points....its still religious freedom in Singapore....Hahaha!
actually humans should adhere to good moral values. good moral values and universal, whether you are chinese, indian, european , christians or muslims etc.
universal values include killing is bad, environmental protection, kindness etc
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
I think it is rather disingenuous to cobble any three things together and label them a trinity and then somehow imply that every religion also have their trinity and thus Christianity is hardly unique. I have been through this issue before with Tcmc.
That was not my intention....anyway hope that your God loves you !
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I already agreed wif u on tat a long time ago. I brought up those pts cos demon bane asked for my basis. Then u came in and assumed I haven't accepted tat as a fact. Mind u, I was replying to demon bane.
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Originally posted by despondent:
I already agreed wif u on tat a long time ago. I brought up those pts cos demon bane asked for my basis. Then u came in and assumed I haven't accepted tat as a fact. Mind u, I was replying to demon bane.
please try to click on the "quote" button so i know which post you are responding to.
:)
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
No no BIC,
you misunderstood me.
I didnt say christianity is hardly unique.
I said
EVERY religion has its unique point!
Indeed, but since when did I arge that uniqueness is an indicator of truth? I think you are equivocating too much on the word "unique". Atheism is also unique in that it claims there is no gods or supernatural, but that hardly makes it true either. So I am not making uniqueness the test of truth. But neither should you just be superficial to find some similarities between all religions and then declare they are all the same and thus man-made and thus false. Oh, of course to you they are all beautiful but completely false which IMO is one of the most patronising thing to say.
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Originally posted by despondent:
To sgdiehard
Most of them dun care about The Heaven. All they care about is they make it to a heaven/nirvana.
that is true. Most define heaven the way they want it. The definitions defer very very widely. Thank God for revealing to us and thank Jesus for the salvation.
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BIC,
Tcmc was referring to me. But I never did explicitly say he uniqueness of Christianity is the UNIVERSAL reason y ppl shld believe it's the way to heaven. At most I only meant tat it's the way for me.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Indeed, but since when did I arge that uniqueness is an indicator of truth? I think you are equivocating too much on the word "unique". Atheism is also unique in that it claims there is no gods or supernatural, but that hardly makes it true either. So I am not making uniqueness the test of truth. But neither should you just be superficial to find some similarities between all religions and then declare they are all the same and thus man-made and thus false. Oh, of course to you they are all beautiful but completely false which IMO is one of the most patronising thing to say.
BIC,
Cos despondent kept trying to show me the unique points of his religion , implying that those unique points make his religion "more true" than the rest. He was using the unique points to compare with other religions.
So naturally, I will also show him all the unique points of all other religions.
Unique points doesnt make a religion more true, but the unique points just make a religion "Unique"
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Another similarity is that some people believed and hinted that "pain is the pathway to higher consciousness" A thing early humans practice....(even before buddhism)....Also some priests do that? So did Jesus did the same?.....Hmmm....
No, Jesus did not do the same. Jesus suffered humiliation, yes, pain in the heart, foresaken by the Father when he bore the sins of the world, but it is His resurrection that make a victorious pathway to heaven, not the suffering.
No, the way I understand Buddhism, there is little similiarity, if any, between Buddhism and Christianity.
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Which u did before already n we have reached some sort of a conclusion n the case was closed. Nw u reopened the case when I was actually replying to demon bane who is new to the case.
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Originally posted by despondent:
Which u did before already n we have reached some sort of a conclusion n the case was closed. Nw u reopened the case when I was actually replying to demon bane who is new to the case.
If you obstinately refuse to use the "quote" button, no one will really know which post you are responding to
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Originally posted by despondent:
BIC,
Tcmc was referring to me. But I never did explicitly say he uniqueness of Christianity is the UNIVERSAL reason y ppl shld believe it's the way to heaven. At most I only meant tat it's the way for me.
No worries. He was also aiming that question at me a few posts earlier.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC,
Cos despondent kept trying to show me the unique points of his religion , implying that those unique points make his religion "more true" than the rest. He was using the unique points to compare with other religions.
So naturally, I will also show him all the unique points of all other religions.
Unique points doesnt make a religion more true, but the unique points just make a religion "Unique"
Tcmc,
You are reading into despondent's reply. How you know what he was implying? And if he says he is not implying that, what then?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Anybody wanna correct my thinking?
Trinity in Christianity is about God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. It is not 3 in 1, and I know nothing about the Buddhists trinity, in fact, this is the first time I am hearing it. Do Buddhists call past present and future buddha buddhist trinity? If you do, then NO, there is no similarity between the Buddhist trinity and Christian trinity.