Originally posted by Tcmc:BIC,
despondent is openminded, unlike you.
despondent is on a dialogue, not a monologue.
We can agree to disagrree.
Strangley, but i cant do that with you
It goes both ways dude. You also cannot agree with me. So why aren't you guilty of monologue? Special pleading again!
Originally posted by BroInChrist:It goes both ways dude. You also cannot agree with me. So why aren't you guilty of monologue? Special pleading again!
Nah .
Despondent and I dont agree with one another yet i can give in and he can give in too.
Not you.
You're all knowing!
Originally posted by Tcmc:Nah .
Despondent and I dont agree with one another yet i can give in and he can give in too.
Not you.
You're all knowing!
Another absurd allegation. Just because I am certain of SOME things you charge me for being prideful and all-knowing? You are just trolling here.
i am 100% abt certain things...belief in jesus i am 100% certain and i see certainty as a personal thing...
I get married to my wife cos i am 100% certain she loves me...but ppl who dunno her or didnt live wif her, will they be 100% certain she is a loving person? they may have observed the times she nag at me or scolded me then feel she doesnt love me...but wad they didnt see were the times she cared for me and showered me wif love which could have been done privately at home where there are only 2 of us...so juz cos i cun prove wad happened at home, does it mean i cannot be 100% certain she loves me? tats why some forumers here like demon bane will say to each his own cos experiences are very personal...
u are viewing 100% certainty from a universal perspective...but when it comes to religion, love, r/s, the 100% certainty can only be viewed personally...
Originally posted by despondent:i am 100% abt certain things...belief in jesus i am 100% certain and i see certainty as a personal thing...
I get married to my wife cos i am 100% certain she loves me...but ppl who dunno her or didnt live wif her, will they be 100% certain she is a loving person? they may have observed the times she nag at me or scolded me then feel she doesnt love me...but wad they didnt see were the times she cared for me and showered me wif love which could have been done privately at home where there are only 2 of us...so juz cos i cun prove wad happened at home, does it mean i cannot be 100% certain she loves me? tats why some forumers here like demon bane will say to each his own cos experiences are very personal...
u are viewing 100% certainty from a universal perspective...but when it comes to religion, love, r/s, the 100% certainty can only be viewed personally...
Exactly.
it is a 100% personal thing.
So why do christians go around telling people to believe in what is personal?
Its a personal thing and it applied personally. It doesnt apply to everyone. If its personal, keep it personal.!
tcmc,
then since buddhism makes more sense, go and be a buddhist...i chose christianity cos christianity makes more sense...
both gal A and B can be equally good, but if only one speaks ur love language and understands u and u only have feelings for her, tell me who will u choose?
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Another absurd allegation. Just because I am certain of SOME things you charge me for being prideful and all-knowing? You are just trolling here.
Lol. While scientists and physicists are busy still studying the origins of big bang and how it works with research and the Collider, you are here telling everyone that you know where the universe originated from a religious book.
I see you as "more" allknowing than the physicists then
Originally posted by despondent:tcmc,
then since buddhism makes more sense, go and be a buddhist...i chose christianity cos christianity makes more sense...
both gal A and B can be equally good, but if only one speaks ur love language and understands u and u only have feelings for her, tell me who will u choose?
Ya despondent,
You tell me to go be a buddhist. Butproblem is your fellow christians always dont leave us nonchristians alone.
Why do the Jews dun believe Jesus ? They're so near to his time.... They are still waiting for their messiah....
becos we are commanded to do so...and the great commandment is juz abt one of the easiest command tat christians can follow...if we cun even bring ourselves to do tat at least, how can we claim to be followers of christ??? i mean the great commandment compared to the 10 commandments, tell me which is easiest to follow? if christians dun even try to do the easiest, dun even tink we can fulfill the harder ones...this is my take...lets see if BIC has any input on this...
Originally posted by despondent:tcmc,
then since buddhism makes more sense, go and be a buddhist...i chose christianity cos christianity makes more sense...
both gal A and B can be equally good, but if only one speaks ur love language and understands u and u only have feelings for her, tell me who will u choose?
Religion is not about love, it is about how to relieve you from sufferings. If one brings you here to suffer then rescue you from sufferings, I will definitely not choose him because it is meaningless.
to demon bane
if brey was here, he surely can answer ur qn...
Originally posted by Demon Bane:Why do the Jews dun believe Jesus ? They're so near to his time.... They are still waiting for their messiah....
oh ya... thats something interesting... the relationship b/w the jew and christians and jews and the muslims... can some1 share something about this?
Originally posted by despondent:becos we are commanded to do so...and the great commandment is juz abt one of the easiest command tat christians can follow...if we cun even bring ourselves to do tat at least, how can we claim to be followers of christ??? i mean the great commandment compared to the 10 commandments, tell me which is easiest to follow? if christians dun even try to do the easiest, dun even tink we can fulfill the harder ones...this is my take...lets see if BIC has any input on this...
See?
And you expect people to leave you alone to your beliefs and you dont leave people alone to your beliefs?
Do unto others what you wan others to do unto you.
If you wan ppl to leave you alone toyour beliefs and not try to convince you to leave your religion, then DONT go to others and try to convince others to levae their religions!
Do unto others what you wan others to do unto you.
to despodent: and brey is?
to pinknutri,
then christianity cannot be considered a religion and honestly, go ask any pastor and see if he says christianity is a religion or a r/s...in fact, God hates religion...i cun quote the exact verse for this but i noe its in the bible cos i have seen it b4...BIC, do u noe?
Originally posted by Demon Bane:Why do the Jews dun believe Jesus ? They're so near to his time.... They are still waiting for their messiah....
i can answer you.
Because most jews do not believe that jesus is god. Most jews, believe that jesus was a misguided jewish man.
I never say this.
Jews say this
but are the buddhists, taoists and other religions commanded to reach out to non-believers? do u see demon bane reaching out to others abt buddhism?
to destiny,
he is an old-time forumer who has disappeared...a messianic jew who knew judaism and christianity very well...uncle chin eng will noe who he is too...
but are the buddhists, taoists and other religions commanded to reach out to non-believers? do u see demon bane reaching out to others abt buddhism?
to destiny,
he is an old-time forumer who has disappeared...a messianic jew who knew judaism and christianity very well...uncle chin eng will noe who he is too...
Originally posted by despondent:to pinknutri,
then christianity cannot be considered a religion and honestly, go ask any pastor and see if he says christianity is a religion or a r/s...in fact, God hates religion...i cun quote the exact verse for this but i noe its in the bible cos i have seen it b4...BIC, do u noe?
Christianity IS areligion, but your religion focusses on love while other religions focus on relieving of suffering while other religions focus on faith while other religions focus on good works while other religions focus on prospering.
Different religions focus on different things!
i have no problems wif tat...i was juz replying pinknutri based on wad he/she said abt religions...
Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:
oh ya... thats something interesting... the relationship b/w the jew and christians and jews and the muslims... can some1 share something about this?
I will put it simply for you ok? I am an exchristian so i roughly know .
1. Jews believe in the Torah, and that God is YHWH. Religion of jews is called Judaism. Judaism was formed about 4000 years ago. Later Jewish scriptures do mention Jesus as a misguided man. Jews do not believe that Jesus is God.
2. Christians believe in the Torah and the new testament and that Jesus is God. Christianity was formed about 2000 years ago.
3. Muslims believe in the Torah (a bit different from the Jewish torah) and the Quran. Islam was formed about 1400 years ago. Muslims also do not believe Jesus is God. Muslims believe Jesus was a good man.
Christians believe their new testament supercedes the Jewish Torah. Muslims believe their Quran supercedes BOTH the Torah and Bible.
Generally speaking.
so buddhists, taoists, hindus are allowed to follow their scriptures but christians cannot follow their scriptures which include a commandment to reach out?
Originally posted by despondent:so buddhists, taoists, hindus are allowed to follow their scriptures but christians cannot follow their scriptures which include a commandment to reach out?
1. But you also dont follow all the commandments in the bible what, so why die die must pick one and follow?
2. Answer me also, you like people to go to you to convince you to leave your religion?
Originally posted by despondent:so buddhists, taoists, hindus are allowed to follow their scriptures but christians cannot follow their scriptures which include a commandment to reach out?
Well its unlikely that Hindus, Taoists and Buddhists will talk to people on the streets about their religions...it appears only christians do that...Hmmmm...too eager to share their "good news" ?