1+1+1 = 1 ?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC,
You made the claim, you need to provide the methodology to prove it.
No one is gonna help you on this, sadly.
Tcmc,
So be it then. Since you refuse to answer and justify your claim, I don't see why I am under any further obligation to prove my claim.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Tcmc,
So be it then. Since you refuse to answer and justify your claim, I don't see why I am under any further obligation to prove my claim.
On a sidenote can I ask you something? Put yourself in my shoes.
1. If YOU question my claim that a Pixie visited me last night and made my pet cat speak, do I have to find a methodology and provide the evidence to convince you or do I insist you give me a methodology to prove my own miraculous claim?
I am trying to simplify it for you to see how ridiculous you are.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
On a sidenote can I ask you something? Put yourself in my shoes.
1. If YOU question my claim that a Pixie visited me last night and made my pet cat speak, do I have to find a methodology and provide the evidence to convince you or do I insist you give me a methodology to prove my own miraculous claim?
I am trying to simplify it for you to see how ridiculous you are.
Tcmc,
In the first place if you made such a claim at all, I will NOT ask for empirical evidence that your cat spoke. I will ask WHY you make that claim, what the cat supposedly spoke, and see whether you are being coherent in your story. And then I will ask you, why should I believe what you just said?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Tcmc,
In the first place if you made such a claim at all, I will NOT ask for empirical evidence that your cat spoke. I will ask WHY you make that claim, what the cat supposedly spoke, and see whether you are being coherent in your story. And then I will ask you, why should I believe what you just said?
Why play the game of changing words here? You have basically rephrase what I said. Good job for comprehension in sec school but not here.
So after you ask me "why should i believe what you said?", what must I do? Tell me. What must I do to convince you that indeed a Pixie visited me?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Why play the game of changing words here? You have basically rephrase what I said. Good job for comprehension in sec school but not here.
So after you ask me "why should i believe what you said?", what must I do? Tell me. What must I do to convince you that indeed a Pixie visited me?
LOL! Isn't that the question YOU are supposed to answer me? Trying to shift that to me now? Cunning fellow you are.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
LOL! Isn't that the question YOU are supposed to answer me? Trying to shift that to me now? Cunning fellow you are.
BIC
You are a shame to many christians out there. At least they understand the "burden of proof" and that they have to prove a claim they made and not go around begging others to provide a method for them to prove.
BIC,
Jesus specifically taught not to be prideful and to be well equipped when answering non-believers. Obeviously your answers are trash when you say I have to give you a method to prove your claim.
I merely ask you to prove your claim that the miracles are real.
1. If you cant use empirical evidence to prove miracles, then SAY SO. (why your pride would hurt if you say you cant prove them empirically?)
2. And if you cant prove it empirically, it is YOUR responsibility to USE another method to prove your claim, not YOU asking ME to give you a method.
3. And if you do not have any method, say so. And say it's by faith. What's wrong?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
You are a shame to many christians out there. At least they understand the "burden of proof" and that they have to prove a claim they made and not go around begging others to provide a method for them to prove.
BIC,
Jesus specifically taught not to be prideful and to be well equipped when answering non-believers. Obeviously your answers are trash when you say I have to give you a method to prove your claim.
I merely ask you to prove your claim that the miracles are real.
1. If you cant use empirical evidence to prove miracles, then SAY SO. (why your pride would hurt if you say you cant prove them empirically?)
2. And if you cant prove it empirically, it is YOUR responsibility to USE another method to prove your claim, not YOU asking ME to give you a method.
3. And if you do not have any method, say so. And say it's by faith. What's wrong?
Personal attack mode now, Tcmc?
I never said I do not have to back up my claims. But you have no right to accuse me of that when you fail miserably to back up your claims. As it is right now you are denying making any claims at all to get yourself off the hook. You know, that's how Jesus answered His opponents. They wanted to trap Him and asked Him questions to catch Him in a dilemma. What did He do? He turned their questions on themselves and asked them to justify their questions. They refused to answer Him, and He says then that neither will He tell them the answer. Dude, if you cannot even justify your question, you have no right to demand for the answer.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Personal attack mode now, Tcmc?
I never said I do not have to back up my claims. But you have no right to accuse me of that when you fail miserably to back up your claims. As it is right now you are denying making any claims at all to get yourself off the hook. You know, that's how Jesus answered His opponents. They wanted to trap Him and asked Him questions to catch Him in a dilemma. What did He do? He turned their questions on themselves and asked them to justify their questions. They refused to answer Him, and He says then that neither will He tell them the answer. Dude, if you cannot even justify your question, you have no right to demand for the answer.
BIC,
Me asking you to prove a claim , isn't a claim.
It is ASKING you to prove your claim. I didnt make any claim. I also did not claim that miracles can be proven empirically.
And I already said, if it cant be proved empirically, it is also your responsibility to provide a methodology to prove your claim.
Understand?
And dont talk about personal attacks, my friend. Look at the plank in your eye first, Jesus says.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC,
Me asking you to prove a claim , isn't a claim.
It is ASKING you to prove your claim. I didnt make any claim. I also did not claim that miracles can be proven empirically.
And I already said, if it cant be proved empirically, it is also your responsibility to provide a methodology to prove your claim.
Understand?
And dont talk about personal attacks, my friend. Look at the plank in your eye first, Jesus says.
Tcmc,
You claimed that empirical evidence must be produced for miracles that happened. Justify that demand please. But if you now want to take back that demand because you are of the view that miracles CANNOT be proven empirically, please state so. Because now the ball game change already. So are you INSISTING on empirical proofs still for historical events? If not, please rephrase your original question.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Tcmc,
You claimed that empirical evidence must be produced for miracles that happened. Justify that demand please. But if you now want to take back that demand because you are of the view that miracles CANNOT be proven empirically, please state so. Because now the ball game change already. So are you INSISTING on empirical proofs still for historical events? If not, please rephrase your original question.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Ok miracles cannot be proven empirically, both us agree on that..LOL...(I dont see how this helps your case) But now, its still your responsibility to come up with another method since you made the claim!
Please come up with another method to prove/justify your miracles!
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Ok miracles cannot be proven empirically, both us agree on that..LOL...(I dont see how this helps your case) But now, its still your responsibility to come up with another method since you made the claim!
Please come up with another method to prove/justify your miracles!
So now you have changed your mind and say that miracles cannot be empirically proven? Aren't you glad to have learned something new through self-discovery? That's progress! But let's explore a little bit more. If empirical methods cannot be used, what methods should we be using then? Come on you can do it! -
Originally posted by winsomeea:
I notice they are always right in what they say, when others don't agree with them , wow it is like affecting them and they have to do something to stop it. Whether they do the stopping out of personal ego or love of God we can tell.Practice of love of God is very lacking in many christians.
he can try a 'kill them all, god knows his own' method
if he know his church history
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Ok miracles cannot be proven empirically, both us agree on that..LOL...(I dont see how this helps your case) But now, its still your responsibility to come up with another method since you made the claim!
Please come up with another method to prove/justify your miracles!
hey some of the so called miracles are not miracles at all. some could be placebo. u know the code of magic, the so called magic, its not magic of course. magic has been around for centuries.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
So now you have changed your mind and say that miracles cannot be empirically proven? Aren't you glad to have learned something new through self-discovery? That's progress! But let's explore a little bit more. If empirical methods cannot be used, what methods should we be using then? Come on you can do it!BIC,
I think you're very uneducated.
It's is up to the person who claimed to find the methodology.
Up to now, after tens of posts, it still doesnt get into your stubborn think head.
Sadly, if Jesus was real, you would not be a good testimony for him.
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Originally posted by Rooney_07:
hey some of the so called miracles are not miracles at all. some could be placebo. u know the code of magic, the so called magic, its not magic of course. magic has been around for centuries.
I dont care if he claims miracles are real.
But you know whats the ridiculous thing of all???
He made a claim that miracles are real, and hes supposed to find a method to prove his claim, Right?
But now, he is ASKING me to give him a method to prove his claim!
And he thinks hesbeing very smart...
THAT is the scary thing!
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
I dont care if he claims miracles are real.
But you know whats the ridiculous thing of all???
He made a claim that miracles are real, and hes supposed to find a method to prove his claim, Right?
But now, he is ASKING me to give him a method to prove his claim!
And he thinks hesbeing very smart...
THAT is the scary thing!
well well well, that is deflecting and diverting attention to your question. ya he is smart in doing this. why? he jolly well know he doesnt have the answers directed at him, since the bible didnt explain why god did this and that? even if it did, do you think it will answer satisfactorily? example. god send a flood and kill the baddies to punish for their sins. but then god fail to realise, not all are baddies. if it send a flood to punish them, wont the good people also be punished? see the paradox here.
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Take a break guys. I'm out looking at the moon turning red now.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Take a break guys. I’m out looking at the moon turning red now.
so is it god turning the moon red now?
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Originally posted by Rooney_07:
so is it god turning the moon red now?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Stop trolling lah.no I am asking you if it was god who turned the moon red, a valid qns
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Originally posted by Rooney_07:
no I am asking you if it was god who turned the moon red, a valid qns
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
You must be on a troll, asking troll questions just to poke fun at Christians.no, it was you who believed that anything and everything is created by god what. so any occurences must ask if this was act of god lor. so whats wrong w my question?
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Originally posted by Rooney_07:
no, it was you who believed that anything and everything is created by god what. so any occurences must ask if this was act of god lor. so whats wrong w my question?
What's wrong with the question? It's a troll question asked by a troll who's on a roll playing the troll. -
Once upon time there was Rooney9... now rising from the ashes of the former we have Rooney7. What does that say ?
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there were many christians banned and fireice indicated when its time to press button, she will do it
so its ok, when one know the number of xtians banned here you will be amazed..