Originally posted by sgdiehard:I have never been to CHC so really don't know what he said and what they said.
I've been a few times. Those videos of him in the other thread are quite representative of his everyday preaching.
Members should ask him to lead by example and make some major donations by percentage plus sell some of his assets.
I just don't understand how christian pastors can preach to their members to give 10%.
I also dun understand why their followers obey him to give 10% of their salary
Originally posted by Rooney_07:I also dun understand why their followers obey him to give 10% of their salary
these brainwashed mindless goons think the 10% is a lifetime instalment plan for a condo in heaven mah....................
Actually it's not just the big churches.
Originally posted by Susanteo2011:
these brainwashed mindless goons think the 10% is a lifetime instalment plan for a condo in heaven mah....................
if want to give, also give at own free will mah. where got such a thing as 10% one. people want to give any amount also can me, like $1 or $5 or even 50 cents. you give is from the heart. if you are poor, you give less lor, if you are rich, give more lor.
Christians tell me the 10% thing is from their bible so they have to obey.
But bible is also written by men and they should be more flexible about it right?>
Originally posted by Tcmc:Christians tell me the 10% thing is from their bible so they have to obey.
But bible is also written by men and they should be more flexible about it right?>
They claim the bible are all God's words, christians are to obey.
winsomeea
Originally posted by Tcmc:winsomeea
No christians actually don't obey all of the bible because the bible also says don't eat pork (old testament) and don't allow women to preach in church (new testament).
Christians don't obey the whole bible.
Most of the practices of Old Testament are not practised they claimed the arrival of Jesus in new testament supersedes the Old Testament. As for the new testament on women not allowed to preach, I don't know. Guess, they base on the modern times men and women now equal . . . .. ..
Contradiction again!
Full of contradictions, crappy Christianity. God claims that birds in the air are fed what more about human beings who are more precious than birds. Look around, beggers in hunger all around the world. Contradiction again!
Hi Win
Don't expect them to question their pastor.
It is different from questioning your boss or even your father. It's like questioning God's envoy.
alize,
How about you? Do you question the bible and your own religion?
Originally posted by Tcmc:Hi Win
The fact that christians don't obey the whole bible is already a contradiction itself.
Bible says Word is from god and the bible is his Word and that christians must obey it.
But they pick and choose which ones to obey.
reason is simple, they have doubts on the bible. if christians asks questions of why, then they will surely know that bible has a lot of loopholes. I am sure ex christians will share with you on why they left christianity.
Hey Rooney
I left you a msg. Could discuss more!
Originally posted by Rooney_07:reason is simple, they have doubts on the bible. if christians asks questions of why, then they will surely know that bible has a lot of loopholes. I am sure ex christians will share with you on why they left christianity.
Yep.
Originally posted by Tcmc:Hi Win
The fact that christians don't obey the whole bible is already a contradiction itself.
Bible says Word is from god and the bible is his Word and that christians must obey it.
But they pick and choose which ones to obey.
That is one problem out of the many. those whom he chooses to be christians know that however misbehave they are as christians the God will continue to bless them, obedience selectively does not affect their receiving of blessings.
Originally posted by Tcmc:alize,
How about you? Do you question the bible and your own religion?
I will question the Pastor, who is a man and not the bible or religion.
Don't for one second think I am so easily smoked.
Originally posted by Susanteo2011:
these brainwashed mindless goons think the 10% is a lifetime instalment plan for a condo in heaven mah....................
There isn't ?
Christmas is coming. Kong Hee all ready to receive Christmas offering.
Originally posted by Tcmc:Hi Win
The fact that christians don't obey the whole bible is already a contradiction itself.
Bible says Word is from god and the bible is his Word and that christians must obey it.
But they pick and choose which ones to obey.
Yes, Christian pick & choose which ones to obey from the bible that suit them. They are hypocrites !
Hi,I am new here and I just happen to read thru this thread.
I am a Christian myself and I must say how this KH saga has tarnished the name of Christianity among believers and non believers.I am actually feeling quite ashamed that such a thing can happen esp in a megachurch with the alleged news about it.My friends who are Christians last time from CHC came and told us a lot of negative things about how they go about their daily activities every week.The MTVs of the pastor's wife was played before the service and they were encouraged to buy the albums.My friends felt that the teachings from there were quite hollow and they see no point in attending CHC anymore.
I think with the wealth KH or SH have,they should use it to bless the less fortunate around us.Many individuals or families in need could benefit or lead decent lives if they really use it to bless these people.
BTW,I am not from CHC.
Originally posted by LynetteJeanette:Hi,I am new here and I just happen to read thru this thread.
I am a Christian myself and I must say how this KH saga has tarnished the name of Christianity among believers and non believers.I am actually feeling quite ashamed that such a thing can happen esp in a megachurch with the alleged news about it.My friends who are Christians last time from CHC came and told us a lot of negative things about how they go about their daily activities every week.The MTVs of the pastor's wife was played before the service and they were encouraged to buy the albums.My friends felt that the teachings from there were quite hollow and they see no point in attending CHC anymore.
I think with the wealth KH or SH have,they should use it to bless the less fortunate around us.Many individuals or families in need could benefit or lead decent lives if they really use it to bless these people.
BTW,I am not from CHC.
Discourage christians especially new ones to stay away from CHC lest they be led astray by the wrong doctrine.
CHC is a blacksheep.
Christians from CHC revealed that before Worship, they set aside time to promote the album of Sun the wife of Kong Hee and congregation was asked to purchase more than 10 pcs of her CD. They are making the church a business place.
Originally posted by winsomeea:Discourage christians especially new ones to stay away from CHC lest they be led astray by the wrong doctrine.
CHC is a blacksheep.
Christians from CHC revealed that before Worship, they set aside time to promote the album of Sun the wife of Kong Hee and congregation was asked to purchase more than 10 pcs of her CD. They are making the church a business place.
how shameless can he be? Wonder how on earth can christians in CHC be so gullible, use their brains and common sense for pete's sake. If I am a christian, I will be the first one to bolt out of the church premises and never to come back again.
Originally posted by Rooney_07:how shameless can he be? Wonder how on earth can christians in CHC be so gullible, use their brains and common sense for pete's sake. If I am a christian, I will be the first one to bolt out of the church premises and never to come back again.
If you have spoken to one, you will know why.