Exposed:See how City Harvest Pastor asks people for donation
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
you talked as though as you know the bible inside out.
ok what does the bible say out non believers going to hell and that other religion is false?
hahaha....I didn't say I know the Bible, and definitely wouldn't quote the Bible if I don't know.
Can you tell me what is the relevance of the quote to stoning Christians?
If you don't believe in the Bible, why do you bother what the Bible says? Yes, the Bible tells us that God the creator had sent His son Jesus Christ to earth, and those who accept Him will have salvation to return to God in heaven in eternity. There is no other way! The Bible doesn't say anything about other religion. You want to know about other religion, then go read their books.
In the end, it is up to you to decide which book do you want to believe.
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The relevance here is this:
1. You ask "how?", I give an answer. To say "shoot them", "fuck them" or anything else is also an answer, but I pick some answer from the bible.
2. As non-Christians they can choose to stone or not to stone Christians and it is based on one's decision and one's act and the outcome is to be bore by ownself. Also, he is subjected to the law of the country and law of the contemporary time (as stated above by forumer BadzMaro -> "sit in jail").
3. As Christians it is totally another thing. As the Bible is the infallible word of GxD, whatever written in the Bible is true as claimed by Christians. So the act of stoning a Christian to strengthen a Christian's faith as written in the Bible is TRUE to a Christian.
4. If Christians believe wholly in the book of GxD, and meets with practices of the contemporary time that contradicts that in the book of GxD, what do some of the Christians do? Say "must not take the word literally". This is the the time when the trouble of you people practising the "pick and choose" to suit oneself starts. This isn't a problem, until when you people starts to enforce what you all "pick and choose" onto people who are not in the same faith as you people.
5. So certain times when happy, Christians say certain parts of the book of GxD is to be followed, so certain times when not happy, Christians say certain parts of the book of GxD is not to be taken literally. So I asked them, are you GxD? Then how do you know which parts are to be taken literally and which parts aren't?
6. So some Christians say GxD give you the wisdom to "follow your own heart and eyes". See the cyclical problem now??? (a thousand people will give a thousand different interpretation on what ought to be done and what ought not to be done, then) so I think I do not need to elaborate as i have made my point very clear
By the way, none of my post is directed at you or anyone personally. So don't come crying and say " But I am not like that ! "
Feel free to comment.
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
Stone them.
NIV Acts 14:19-22 :
KJV Acts 14:19-22 :
So that we can help them to "continue in the faith" by "going through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God".
I LOL when I saw you said stone them. Bang, which religion's law are you practicing?
Hey in a Christian context, is it a death threat if you go to CHC and put rocks in the offering envelope?
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Originally posted by alize:
I LOL when I saw you said stone them. Bang, which religion's law are you practicing?
Hey in a Christian context, is it a death threat if you go to CHC and put rocks in the offering envelope?
i do not practice, i just suggest.
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They should have just laid an IED for Paul on the road to Iconium and Antioch.
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
The relevance here is this:
1. You ask "how?", I give an answer. To say "shoot them", "fuck them" or anything else is also an answer, but I pick some answer from the bible.
2. As non-Christians they can choose to stone or not to stone Christians and it is based on one's decision and one's act and the outcome is to be bore by ownself. Also, he is subjected to the law of the country and law of the contemporary time (as stated above by forumer BadzMaro -> "sit in jail").
3. As Christians it is totally another thing. As the Bible is the infallible word of GxD, whatever written in the Bible is true as claimed by Christians. So the act of stoning a Christian to strengthen a Christian's faith as written in the Bible is TRUE to a Christian.
4. If Christians believe wholly in the book of GxD, and meets with practices of the contemporary time that contradicts that in the book of GxD, what do some of the Christians do? Say "must not take the word literally". This is the the time when the trouble of you people practising the "pick and choose" to suit oneself starts. This isn't a problem, until when you people starts to enforce what you all "pick and choose" onto people who are not in the same faith as you people.
5. So certain times when happy, Christians say certain parts of the book of GxD is to be followed, so certain times when not happy, Christians say certain parts of the book of GxD is not to be taken literally. So I asked them, are you GxD? Then how do you know which parts are to be taken literally and which parts aren't?
6. So some Christians say GxD give you the wisdom to "follow your own heart and eyes". See the cyclical problem now??? (a thousand people will give a thousand different interpretation on what ought to be done and what ought not to be done, then) so I think I do not need to elaborate as i have made my point very clear
By the way, none of my post is directed at you or anyone personally. So don't come crying and say " But I am not like that ! "
Feel free to comment.
aiya, I never say anything about myself. Now I tell you. I am a Christian because I accept Jesus as my savior to save me from all the wrong things and most importantly to help me not do all the things I shouldn't do. having said that, I am still a human being, like all other Christians and non Christians, so I made mistakes, let my desire runs wild, my temper got out of control, ..... I can only say that you read the Bible and learn what the Bible tells you to do, and don't follow or get offended by the things that some Christians do.
If Christians are happy in giving their money to their churches, why are non Christians unhappy. Nobody is asking you to give. Put it another way, we give to church and are happy, it is just like you paying for an ipad, you happy?
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
The relevance here is this:
1. You ask "how?", I give an answer. To say "shoot them", "fuck them" or anything else is also an answer, but I pick some answer from the bible.
2. As non-Christians they can choose to stone or not to stone Christians and it is based on one's decision and one's act and the outcome is to be bore by ownself. Also, he is subjected to the law of the country and law of the contemporary time (as stated above by forumer BadzMaro -> "sit in jail").
3. As Christians it is totally another thing. As the Bible is the infallible word of GxD, whatever written in the Bible is true as claimed by Christians. So the act of stoning a Christian to strengthen a Christian's faith as written in the Bible is TRUE to a Christian.
4. If Christians believe wholly in the book of GxD, and meets with practices of the contemporary time that contradicts that in the book of GxD, what do some of the Christians do? Say "must not take the word literally". This is the the time when the trouble of you people practising the "pick and choose" to suit oneself starts. This isn't a problem, until when you people starts to enforce what you all "pick and choose" onto people who are not in the same faith as you people.
5. So certain times when happy, Christians say certain parts of the book of GxD is to be followed, so certain times when not happy, Christians say certain parts of the book of GxD is not to be taken literally. So I asked them, are you GxD? Then how do you know which parts are to be taken literally and which parts aren't?
6. So some Christians say GxD give you the wisdom to "follow your own heart and eyes". See the cyclical problem now??? (a thousand people will give a thousand different interpretation on what ought to be done and what ought not to be done, then) so I think I do not need to elaborate as i have made my point very clear
By the way, none of my post is directed at you or anyone personally. So don't come crying and say " But I am not like that ! "
Feel free to comment.
can't see any relevance, but feel free to throw stone, but when police asks, don't tell the police that you are obeying the Bible.
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Any ask for donation big project from Kong Hee?
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I heard it's called Arise and Defend.
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To arise and defend cost money? Defend what? Defend their God? Defend the horse face woman? Defend kong Hee?
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
can't see any relevance, but feel free to throw stone, but when police asks, don't tell the police that you are obeying the Bible.
That is for non-Christians, of course, since it was the non-Christians (the Jews) who stoned Paul, and since the non-Christians do not believe in the words of the Bible, whether they do throw stones or not, the consequences itself does not have whatever association with the Bible.
Now for the Christians, of course, since the Christians believe in the words of the GxD and obey the Bible, does Christians (including you maybe) believe in being stoned makes you a stronger Christian?
1. If yes, should the act of throwing stones at Christians be encouraged so that it makes you people a stronger Christian?
2. If no, why no follow the word of GxD?
3. Any other answers are welcome.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
hahaha....I didn't say I know the Bible, and definitely wouldn't quote the Bible if I don't know.
Can you tell me what is the relevance of the quote to stoning Christians?
If you don't believe in the Bible, why do you bother what the Bible says? Yes, the Bible tells us that God the creator had sent His son Jesus Christ to earth, and those who accept Him will have salvation to return to God in heaven in eternity. There is no other way! The Bible doesn't say anything about other religion. You want to know about other religion, then go read their books.
In the end, it is up to you to decide which book do you want to believe.
no other way? doesnt this says alot already.
religions doesnt match sense at all. why? cos they were ancient religions, where society, science and technology in that era were primitive, stone age.
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
That is for non-Christians, of course, since it was the non-Christians (the Jews) who stoned Paul, and since the non-Christians do not believe in the words of the Bible, whether they do throw stones or not, the consequences itself does not have whatever association with the Bible.
Now for the Christians, of course, since the Christians believe in the words of the GxD and obey the Bible, does Christians (including you maybe) believe in being stoned makes you a stronger Christian?
1. If yes, should the act of throwing stones at Christians be encouraged so that it makes you people a stronger Christian?
2. If no, why no follow the word of GxD?
3. Any other answers are welcome.
Jews don't believe in the Bible? hello, you are wrong again.
If you are interested in the Bible, read it first before you discuss.
You want to know if being stoned makes a Christian stronger, go and stone some Christians and see for yourself.
and share your experience with us.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
no other way? doesnt this says alot already.
religions doesnt match sense at all. why? cos they were ancient religions, where society, science and technology in that era were primitive, stone age.
what's wrong with that? does Buddhism says that Christians can also go to their heaven, or Islam says that Buddhists can also go to their heaven?
If you only believe in science and technology, that is your choice, and lets leave it as that.
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City Harvest pastor don't ask people for money, he ask his own members for money.
I won't be kaypoh in their affairs. Also its up to them to give or not. I won't give a damn, if someone in there give his Ferarri to him.
I am not the jealous type.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
Jews don't believe in the Bible? hello, you are wrong again.
If you are interested in the Bible, read it first before you discuss.
You want to know if being stoned makes a Christian stronger, go and stone some Christians and see for yourself.
and share your experience with us.
Jews ↔ Old Testament
Acts <== New Testament
If Jews just believed in the whole Bible they wouldn't be holding on dearly to their Tenakh anymore.
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
Jews ↔ Old Testament
Acts <== New Testament
If Jews just believed in the whole Bible they wouldn't be holding on dearly to their Tenakh anymore.
have you stoned any Christians?
If not, Sunday is just 3 days away, get ready, make them strong.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
what's wrong with that? does Buddhism says that Christians can also go to their heaven, or Islam says that Buddhists can also go to their heaven?
If you only believe in science and technology, that is your choice, and lets leave it as that.
I am helping you think rationally and critically. have you ever doubted what if there is no god. what if there is no heaven after all. have you thought that god is created by mankind.
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
Jews ↔ Old Testament
Acts <== New Testament
If Jews just believed in the whole Bible they wouldn't be holding on dearly to their Tenakh anymore.
You are absolutlely right about it.
Catholics, too, still practising the old testament.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I am helping you think rationally and critically. have you ever doubted what if there is no god. what if there is no heaven after all. have you thought that god is created by mankind.
Thank you for your help. I am not only rational and critical, I have experience. There is without doubt that there is a God, whose creation I see, whose love I feel, whose promises give me hope, whose compassion pulled me through difficult times, whose teaching and company prevented me from going astray, whose comfort gives me peace..... it is not just about heaven and hell, but in the life I live everyday. It is difficult for you to understand, I am sure.
To some people God is created by mankind, to others, they are their own God, even they say there is no God.
What if there is no hell after all, what have I got to lose?
But what if there is a creator and you realize you never honor? what if there is indeed a better place to go after life and you realize it was too late for you to get entrance? What if you are wrong? think about it.
Good night.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
Thank you for your help. I am not only rational and critical, I have experience. There is without doubt that there is a God, whose creation I see, whose love I feel, whose promises give me hope, whose compassion pulled me through difficult times, whose teaching and company prevented me from going astray, whose comfort gives me peace..... it is not just about heaven and hell, but in the life I live everyday. It is difficult for you to understand, I am sure.
To some people God is created by mankind, to others, they are their own God, even they say there is no God.
What if there is no hell after all, what have I got to lose?
But what if there is a creator and you realize you never honor? what if there is indeed a better place to go after life and you realize it was too late for you to get entrance? What if you are wrong? think about it.
Good night.
Can you imagine if the police felt a church was too powerful, and decided to surround it, order everyone out and bulldoze it to the ground... in Taiwan?
Just teasing, don't take it seriously.
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aisay, sit back and watch free movie!
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Originally posted by alize:
Can you imagine if the police felt a church was too powerful, and decided to surround it, order everyone out and bulldoze it to the ground... in Taiwan?
Just teasing, don't take it seriously.
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I heard a few testimony about non christians did not believe in existence of God. Later they discovered God indeed is existing and converted to Christians.
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Originally posted by alize:
Can you imagine if the police felt a church was too powerful, and decided to surround it, order everyone out and bulldoze it to the ground... in Taiwan?
Just teasing, don't take it seriously.
huhh....in Taiwan police bulldoze a church to the ground because they think the church is too powerful? you sure of that? I know in China the government is not happy with more people converting to religion, but have not heard them destroying a church.
How do you expect me to react with such a scenario, be afraid?