China Women Snatching bf/husband
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From friends who frequent shanghai,Originally posted by RichGirl:Have you stay in China before? Shanghainese women from the city are not those China girls you find from ktv or geyland. They are known to be very good with men's heart.
shanghainese women are very materialistic, egoistic and dun give respects to their partners in any way. Once step into the traps, you are gone case
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i think it isn't fair to make such sweeping statements.
Are all mistresses from China?
Are all kept women from China?
Are all women who breaks up another's family from China?
the answer is NO
And NO, in case you wonder, i'm a Singaporean woman, not a China woman. -
How true. I prefer females to use soft tactics on me than show me their unhappy face. Given the same request, I am more likely to agree to the request if soft tactics is used.Originally posted by elindra:Guess they know which buttons to press on their man. The thing is that for most Singaporean girls, if they don't get their way they will either kick up a fuss or give the guy the cold treatment.
From my understanding the China gals don't do that. -
hmm..maybe china women know wat a man wans n local women know wat they wan??....see the difference in tat??
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hahaha...it is more to they know how to pamper guys more whilst majority of local girls only like to be pampered....Originally posted by Inzaghi:hmm..maybe china women know wat a man wans n local women know wat they wan??....see the difference in tat??
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it is more like they know how to manipulate man...not all horOriginally posted by IamAngeline:From friends who frequent shanghai,
shanghainese women are very materialistic, egoistic and dun give respects to their partners in any way. Once step into the traps, you are gone case -
Heard the saying that behind every succesful man is a an influential women. Take Zhang Wuji for example. I rather be manipulated by a women who loves me(Zhao Min) rather by one who doesn't (typical singaporean zhou ziruo)
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reali hate tat move...Originally posted by elindra:....
Guess they know which buttons to press on their man. The thing is that for most Singaporean girls, if they don't get their way they will either kick up a fuss or give the guy the cold treatment.
From my understanding the China gals don't do that.
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x2.. bt den again, if the person dun mean anything to me, pamper me oso no use de. wo tian sheng mu zhong wu ren.Originally posted by BrUtUs:reali hate tat move... 
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I'm educated w foriegn degree... above average looking.. good career prospect, been to china, and around the world...
and Now Im thinking I wud rather look for a China or Malaysian GF/Wife...
I tell why:
1) Singapore women not as pretty (yet so dao)...
Being pretty is the number one aspect in choosing for men...
then comes others.... (its in our genes)
In spore, finding someone good looking is already diff,
yet those who r only average looking also so dao...
(ok... may those who r pretty n not dao r already taken)
In China, anyhow choose also wont regret... since most r quite pretty...
One China fren once tell me she know why so many spore guys single...
cos spore gals r ugly... as a matter of fact i agree w her...
2) Spore women liks to be pampered, too demanding..
too 'modern'.. n some r also not independent enuf...
..n adores the western culture/value too much...
these r jus a nice words... i say they think too highly of themselves...
Living n growing up in china is not lik spore.
Its a more competitive, complex n real society.
It makes the people/women more independent, capable...less sheltered.
Sporeans/women r jus too sheltered n wants to be impressed even more by men.
3) Its more exciting, more exhilarting to know someone whos
from a foriegn country.
In short, spore women not as pretty, yet so dao, demanding...
how do u wan a man here to choose if he has a choice?
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I have lots of frens/colls from China... and I certainly do not think
our China frens deserve the kind of society accessment from sporeans...
in terms of either work or women... they r frenly, generous, geniune people.
It only makes me feel that spore people r lik the 'frog in the well'...
once u hav been to china/ard the world... u wil see that
sporeans/women r so narrow minded n dao...
Once a sporean lady fren told me tat china women has no 'qi zhi'..
...well i think spore women's 'qi zhi' is more associated w 'dao-ness'
Thou i must agree that in terms of communications, its not as easy..
since we r brought up in mixed eng/ch environment. So our command
of chinese is limited...
But then.. i think communicating w dao spore women is even more diff...;p
must learn to pamper/impress them... not my cup of tea...
u can say it seemed lik male chavinism,
but i think e problem is e women who thinks so highly of themselve first.
When I lik/love someone, the method of expessions wil not be one of
superficial 'pampering/ impressing'...
ps: in order not to upset anyone.. when i say
sporean, or china...etc .. i refer generally to most of them....not all...
so spore women... go on n think tat men cannot handle u...
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ya China women hide under your bed everynight and comes out to scare you when you are sleeping.Originally posted by RichGirl:Hi,
I have numerous encounters in which many Singapore guys working in China, eventually leave their gf/wife for China Women. Many of them have chosen those from Shanghai, Suzhou, etc... We had a discussion among friends about how/why China Women are so good at it, and what is there in China Women that we don't have, we don't have any conclusion as yet. That is scary, as we don't know the enemy and this problem is real.
I have a friend's hubby who are also posted there, and once it crossed my mind that I should warn her, but I didn't. My friend just called me, hubby leaving her. This is so scary. Any one would like to share what they know about China Women, why are they so good in stealing heart, anyway to make the guys immune to them?
I think we need to know more about them.
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let me add n agree to wat others hav said...
yeah.
i do think china women knows how to make a man happy..
in spore.... its only one way.
the men trying to make the dao women happy ;p -
Originally posted by NuLife:
I can be meek and humble .. if the guy is [b] rich enough . China girls not so dao when they go for singaporeans mah....singaporeans to them quite rich and their ticket out of china.
I'm educated w foriegn degree... above average looking.. good career prospect, been to china, and around the world...
and Now Im thinking I wud rather look for a China or Malaysian GF/Wife...
I tell why:
1) Singapore women not as pretty (yet so dao)...
Being pretty is the number one aspect in choosing for men...
then comes others.... (its in our genes)
In spore, finding someone good looking is already diff,
yet those who r only average looking also so dao...
(ok... may those who r pretty n not dao r already taken)
In China, anyhow choose also wont regret... since most r quite pretty...
One China fren once tell me she know why so many spore guys single...
cos spore gals r ugly... as a matter of fact i agree w her...
Of course, survival of the fittest - when females find mates - they want the best , strongest and those with the potential to provide. Why marry a good for nothing? Of course we have people who married for love and then the guy becomes a leech when he has no job , then they divorce.
2) Spore women liks to be pampered, too demanding..
too 'modern'.. n some r also not independent enuf...
..n adores the western culture/value too much...
these r jus a nice words... i say they think too highly of themselves...
Living n growing up in china is not lik spore.
Its a more competitive, complex n real society.
It makes the people/women more independent, capable...less sheltered.
Sporeans/women r jus too sheltered n wants to be impressed even more by men.
Everyone wants a stable relationship . I don't want a leech - asian or angmoh or china . I pick and choose because I can.
Well , let's see who will be used up then
3) Its more exciting, more exhilarting to know someone whos
from a foriegn country.
In short, spore women not as pretty, yet so dao, demanding...
how do u wan a man here to choose if he has a choice?
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I have lots of frens/colls from China... and I certainly do not think
our China frens deserve the kind of society accessment from sporeans...
in terms of either work or women... they r frenly, generous, geniune people.
It only makes me feel that spore people r lik the 'frog in the well'...
once u hav been to china/ard the world... u wil see that
sporeans/women r so narrow minded n dao...
Once a sporean lady fren told me tat china women has no 'qi zhi'..
...well i think spore women's 'qi zhi' is more associated w 'dao-ness'
Thou i must agree that in terms of communications, its not as easy..
since we r brought up in mixed eng/ch environment. So our command
of chinese is limited...
But then.. i think communicating w dao spore women is even more diff...;p
must learn to pamper/impress them... not my cup of tea...
u can say it seemed lik male chavinism,
but i think e problem is e women who thinks so highly of themselve first.
When I lik/love someone, the method of expessions wil not be one of
superficial 'pampering/ impressing'...
ps: in order not to upset anyone.. when i say
sporean, or china...etc .. i refer generally to most of them....not all...
so spore women... go on n think tat men cannot handle u...
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. At least some Singaporean girls are independent and working . But actually i can agree with the exhilarating part of meeting people from a foreign culture - I have a good friend who is a native american , a cherokee . Exotic , good looking plus educated and with a good job......too bad he will stay in USA when he is done seeing the world because he is proud of his tribal heritage. -
How would u guys define dao?
I remember I got called dao once because I told one guy not to waste his time . It was a fair statement as I wasn't interested in relationships, and I was more for establishing my career baselines first. Worse part got called dao because I was being honest with him and thought it unfair to him if it is all one sided. -
Originally posted by NuLife:I'm educated w foriegn degree... above average looking.. good career prospect, been to china, and around the world...
and Now Im thinking I wud rather look for a China or Malaysian GF/Wife...
Ok, I'm educated with a foreign degree as well, pleasant looking enough, good career and prospects. I can't say I've been to China but I've been around the world due to my job. Usually, I don't like to talk to much about my private life but I think I just need to have my say in this
I've dated men of different nationalities and yet, I'm going to marry a Singaporean guy soon, one reason being that he is very different from most Singaporean guys I know.
I tell why:
1) Singapore women not as pretty (yet so dao)...
Being pretty is the number one aspect in choosing for men...
then comes others.... (its in our genes)
In spore, finding someone good looking is already diff,
yet those who r only average looking also so dao...
(ok... may those who r pretty n not dao r already taken)
In China, anyhow choose also wont regret... since most r quite pretty...
One China fren once tell me she know why so many spore guys single...
cos spore gals r ugly... as a matter of fact i agree w her...
I have to say that most of the guys here are not as handsome or as yan dao as they think they are. Taking a walk down Orchard road and I barely spot a handful. You guys like pretty girls, but girls do like good looking guys as well though I have to admit for some the amount of money they earn can compensate for their looks.
2) Spore women liks to be pampered, too demanding..
too 'modern'.. n some r also not independent enuf...
..n adores the western culture/value too much...
these r jus a nice words... i say they think too highly of themselves...
Living n growing up in china is not lik spore.
Its a more competitive, complex n real society.
It makes the people/women more independent, capable...less sheltered.
Sporeans/women r jus too sheltered n wants to be impressed even more by men.
I would just like to say that Singapore guys like to be pampered and mothered over. God knows how many I have met who treated me like a maid. As for the guys, I would say that many are bigoted chavanists who just wants to be waited on hand and foot. I believe a relationship is a partnership and never one-sided. Most guys expect the girls to be sweet, gentle, good listener and indepedent, but from some of my Singaporean exs? I'm too independent, think too much on my own and able to make decisions?!!? WTF? Make up your minds!!! Most of the guys here in Singapore are also so pampered by their mums that they aren't really as independent or capable as they think they are, and they expect us women to be impressed.
3) Its more exciting, more exhilarting to know someone whos
from a foriegn country.
I agree its more exhilarting to know someone from a foreign country
In short, spore women not as pretty, yet so dao, demanding...
how do u wan a man here to choose if he has a choice?
I would say the same that the guys here aren't that great looking, yet they want to be pampered over, and complain that us girls are just brainless SPGs who run after caucasian men. One thing I have to say is that most Singaporean guys here really need to brush up on their love-making skills.
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I have lots of frens/colls from China... and I certainly do not think
our China frens deserve the kind of society accessment from sporeans...
in terms of either work or women... they r frenly, generous, geniune people.
It only makes me feel that spore people r lik the 'frog in the well'...
once u hav been to china/ard the world... u wil see that
sporeans/women r so narrow minded n dao...
Once a sporean lady fren told me tat china women has no 'qi zhi'..
...well i think spore women's 'qi zhi' is more associated w 'dao-ness'
Thou i must agree that in terms of communications, its not as easy..
since we r brought up in mixed eng/ch environment. So our command
of chinese is limited...
But then.. i think communicating w dao spore women is even more diff...;p
must learn to pamper/impress them... not my cup of tea...
u can say it seemed lik male chavinism,
but i think e problem is e women who thinks so highly of themselve first.
When I lik/love someone, the method of expessions wil not be one of
superficial 'pampering/ impressing'...
ps: in order not to upset anyone.. when i say
sporean, or china...etc .. i refer generally to most of them....not all...
so spore women... go on n think tat men cannot handle u...
I have to comment that some of the guys I have dated before are Chinese expats from China. I think they are great guys really. I've also asked them their thoughts about Chinese women and Singaporean women. Guess what is the reply? They do agree that Singaporean women may be materialistic but at the least they are not manupilative and they said they find Chinese girls dao to them??!! They also cited that they prefered girls from Hong Kong, Singapore and Malaysia. Go figure. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the river.
As well, I have to say that some Singaporean guys just cannot handle directness from a girl. Are we dao because we're not interested in you and just tell you lets just be friends? Come on, you don't want your time wasted and neither do we. I find that alot of Singaporean guys cannot accept rejection at all. And no, its not always about your job or pay. When we say we don't like you anything more than a friend, we mean that we don't like you anymore than a friend.
Maybe there is a percentage of gold diggers out their in the female population, but trust me, that is apparent in every single society. As well, I have read from some posts that Singaporean women usually ask the guy for his job first before showing interest in talking to him. I find that strange because usually its the guys who ask me this question first.
Ok, I might belong to the minority group. Don't fault me on that as I'm just sharing my personal thoughts and experiences. -
woohoo I like elindra's reply.
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most of them after the men's $$ hate them!
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Oh ya I forgot to add that my cousin is in a serious relationship with a Chinese guy.
And yes, he's a great guy. -
haa... hee
though I have to admit for some the amount of money they earn can compensate for their looks.
No comments.
One thing I have to say is that most Singaporean guys here really need to brush up on their love-making skills.
haa... Is love-making skills really so important for to women
in a truthful relationship?
Thou Id met some women who r quite dead in bed on the other hand.
I wud expect such to be more important to men than women.
To me, its not too important in a truthful long-term relationship.God knows how many I have met who treated me like a maid. As for the guys, I would say that many are bigoted chavanists who just wants to be waited on hand and foot.
haa. i pity u... no offence ;p but i guess these r minor things or aint they?
Thou im definitely not lik tat, im thinkg:
If these r little things women can do to make some men happy, why not?
Lik u said, its a 2-way give n take thing. it takes little to make a man happy.
Many men try hard to make their loved one happy,
if it only takes abit on women side, why not?They do agree that Singaporean women may be materialistic but at the least they are not manupilative and they said they find Chinese girls dao to them??!!
On the manipulative part I agree, but i believe its only minority.
Being manupilative seemed to prop up alot esp for shanghainese,
even my china frens say its been historically so.
I guess its only so bcos their society is more complex.
But I still believe its minority. Tats only a few millions out of 1.2 billion
Theres so many others from lesser known provinces, cities n countrysides.
Thou i must say im surprised by ur frens feedback on the dao part.
So far, on my experiences, its been alrite.
I 've known some rich ladies n some equal level colls, frens from china,
definitly not after my money, im not rich at all, but they r far from dao.
Let me guess, ur frens r expats, rich, tried to pick up ladies at clubs..
ladies there r always 'dao' no matter where... tats their definition
of dao= rejectionMost of them after the men's $$ hate them!
most r those u see in spore's geylang streets n ktvs, n kopitiam
As for daoness...
thou in simplistic terms some may associate tat w rejections...
I think its more accurate to define it as:
'thinking too highly of oneself... have too High of an expectation..
wo compromise...n not easily contented...'
Ladies, tell us wat u look for in a men...
Im sure it will always turn out to b a long long list.
Whereas if a guy were to tell u wat he looks for in a women...
it wil b a simple list.
Anyways, I do find elindra's experience interesting... r they unique? -
Originally posted by NuLife:
WORDS OF WISDOM
I'm educated w foriegn degree... above average looking.. good career prospect, been to china, and around the world...
and Now Im thinking I wud rather look for a China or Malaysian GF/Wife...
I tell why:
1) Singapore women not as pretty (yet so dao)...
Being pretty is the number one aspect in choosing for men...
then comes others.... (its in our genes)
In spore, finding someone good looking is already diff,
yet those who r only average looking also so dao...
(ok... may those who r pretty n not dao r already taken)
In China, anyhow choose also wont regret... since most r quite pretty...
One China fren once tell me she know why so many spore guys single...
cos spore gals r ugly... as a matter of fact i agree w her...
2) Spore women liks to be pampered, too demanding..
too 'modern'.. n some r also not independent enuf...
..n adores the western culture/value too much...
these r jus a nice words... i say they think too highly of themselves...
Living n growing up in china is not lik spore.
Its a more competitive, complex n real society.
It makes the people/women more independent, capable...less sheltered.
Sporeans/women r jus too sheltered n wants to be impressed even more by men.
3) Its more exciting, more exhilarting to know someone whos
from a foriegn country.
In short, spore women not as pretty, yet so dao, demanding...
how do u wan a man here to choose if he has a choice?
extra:
I have lots of frens/colls from China... and I certainly do not think
our China frens deserve the kind of society accessment from sporeans...
in terms of either work or women... they r frenly, generous, geniune people.
It only makes me feel that spore people r lik the 'frog in the well'...
once u hav been to china/ard the world... u wil see that
sporeans/women r so narrow minded n dao...
Once a sporean lady fren told me tat china women has no 'qi zhi'..
...well i think spore women's 'qi zhi' is more associated w 'dao-ness'
Thou i must agree that in terms of communications, its not as easy..
since we r brought up in mixed eng/ch environment. So our command
of chinese is limited...
But then.. i think communicating w dao spore women is even more diff...;p
must learn to pamper/impress them... not my cup of tea...
u can say it seemed lik male chavinism,
but i think e problem is e women who thinks so highly of themselve first.
When I lik/love someone, the method of expessions wil not be one of
superficial 'pampering/ impressing'...
ps: in order not to upset anyone.. when i say
sporean, or china...etc .. i refer generally to most of them....not all...
so spore women... go on n think tat men cannot handle u... -
haa... Is love-making skills really so important for to women
I really question that it is not important in a truthful long-term relationship. However, I guess it depends on an individuals sexual drive and needs as well. If sex is not important, you won't see the increment in guys and gals cheating on each other because their partner is not satisfying them, and I'm talking about married couples here.
in a truthful relationship?
Thou Id met some women who r quite dead in bed on the other hand.
I wud expect such to be more important to men than women.
To me, its not too important in a truthful long-term relationship.haa. i pity u... no offence ;p but i guess these r minor things or aint they?
Minor things so why complain that the girls here are not gentle yada yada and the list goes on enough
Thou im definitely not lik tat, im thinkg:
If these r little things women can do to make some men happy, why not?
Lik u said, its a 2-way give n take thing. it takes little to make a man happy.
Many men try hard to make their loved one happy,
if it only takes abit on women side, why not?
I'm complaining here because its one-track. Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. Like I said if it was 2-way, I wouldn't mind, but trying to get them to get me a glass of water at times is as good as getting them to scale Mount Everest for me.
It takes a big from the girl's side, so does it from the guys. Honestly I really don't want a doormat for a boyfriend. Serve me hand and food, work hard and feed me so I can stay at home.
What I'm looking for is a partnership in a relationship, which I've found so far. Like I said its my experiences and yes that guy is a Singaporean and no its not the money bit.On the manipulative part I agree, but i believe its only minority.
Well, the next complaint was how they carry themselves. I guess that will improve. I have nothing against the Chinese and I don't see Singaporeans as being superior to them, because from what I see from the Singaporean society is that everyone is so pampered its really worrying as it affects the work attitudes so badly! I guess it will also boil over to relationships.
Being manupilative seemed to prop up alot esp for shanghainese,
even my china frens say its been historically so.
I guess its only so bcos their society is more complex.
But I still believe its minority. Tats only a few millions out of 1.2 billion
Theres so many others from lesser known provinces, cities n countrysides.
Thou i must say im surprised by ur frens feedback on the dao part.
So far, on my experiences, its been alrite.
I 've known some rich ladies n some equal level colls, frens from china,
definitly not after my money, im not rich at all, but they r far from dao.
Let me guess, ur frens r expats, rich, tried to pick up ladies at clubs..
ladies there r always 'dao' no matter where... tats their definition
of dao= rejection
Expats as in Chinese expats but not Singaporean or expats of other nationalities. No, they are not talking about clubs only.As for daoness...
Sad to say, most guys associate it to rejection.
thou in simplistic terms some may associate tat w rejections...
Ladies, tell us wat u look for in a men...
Im sure it will always turn out to b a long long list.
Whereas if a guy were to tell u wat he looks for in a women...
it wil b a simple list.
I didn't think my list was that long However, I think my fiance puts it very nicely.
" I love you for who you are, and not what I want you to be"
and yes, I agree with him wholeheartedly. -
To be fair , there are some singaporean guys who are nice and caring but no spark . There are some who are persistently looking for a childbearing machine and a housewife. China women can subscribe to the idea of being married and a housewife but I don't think many women in my shoes can.Originally posted by NuLife:haa... hee
As for daoness...
thou in simplistic terms some may associate tat w rejections...
I think its more accurate to define it as:
'thinking too highly of oneself... have too High of an expectation..
wo compromise...n not easily contented...'
Ladies, tell us wat u look for in a men...
Im sure it will always turn out to b a long long list.
Whereas if a guy were to tell u wat he looks for in a women...
it wil b a simple list.
Anyways, I do find elindra's experience interesting... r they unique?
I remembered my experience with my two chinese ex- bfs .
Both wants an obedient housewife and a childbearing machine .
Both have no future plans - both depend on daddy and mommy generous contributions and advice . Not that there is something wrong with it but not caring about the future does worry me. 2k job wah so stable....right.
Both have parents who think that a girl shouldn't have a degree nor work but yet thinks a wife must not be too dependent on husband for money. - Now only miracles will make that happen.
Both have parents who are stuck up and think that their precious sons are the best in the world and the girl he marries should dedicate her life to serving him.
OH YES my ex told me to get him water while watching TV, I told him to pour it himself. His mother looked at me with utter disgust and mutter something about girls these days. If they want a dedicated personal slave - they should buy one. I am there because I am his girlfriend not his bloody maid.
One of the mothers wanted me to clean the frickin toilet and the house - well her dowager highness issued me an order "Oh I am going on a holiday ...can you clean the house while his father and I are away" . My reply was "no" and I broke up with my bf the next day. If they want a maid, go hire one. IF their precious son messes up the place , too bad, he can clean it up because I am with a job , he is unemployed , waiting for his interview reply.
Now I have higher expectations of what I want in a guy. Why? Because I got the same right as anybody else to expect that. Education level must be the same , mutual respect for each other, earning power slightly less or more is ok. Most importantly , I have my own apartment under my name through hardwork and I do not expect to share that asset I have sweated to get. If he wants to live off my apartment , he can go leech off someone else.
The only ones I know with a more open view are non chinese guys in regards to that . Which really stinks because I don't like to date non chinese guys for relationships . Yes I went out with a jewish guy too...smart , independent and a future planner (not to mention he is a dr) but too much objections from families of both parties. So I guess I stay a spinster. -
Minor things so why complain that the girls here are not gentle yada yada and the list goes on enough
haa.. looks whos talkg...
hmm..Im thinking...abt the simplistic definition of dao:
mayb shud add too vocal, too complacent n not knowing how
to reject men properly...
i pity fymk experience thou...
On the whole..
There r nice ladies ard in spore..others dao n spoilt..
The Lucky men gets the nice ladies..
some fall for the dao ones... (n regret later?)
other can choose from bigger foriegn pools... or remain a bachelor
Likwise...
There nice men ard in spore.. others pathetic losers..
the lucky ladies get the nice ones...
some fall for the losers... (n regret later?)
others can choose from foreign pools...or remain a spinster.
Fine?
However...
some fall for diff cat of people... n problems come...
others fall for the same cat. ...n problems come too.. haa
ok..jus being corny...
Anyways...I decide to choose from the a bigger foreign pool. -
err.. feel abit bad being sarcastic... piese
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gotta say something...
if the bf or husband is true, nothing, and i mean NOTHING will "snatch" him away...