WARNING: UNAUTHORISED DISTRIBUTION OF PHOTOS!!
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i rbered something
if post other ppl's pix can hor? (other ppl = non forumites)
like the undersized pink bikini ger from the recent sentosa outing -
Please note : that was stoner and my second outing, we do not know the ppl , remember the nick, nor how to get our pics.
should some one guide the new comer or be nice to keep new comer feel the warm welcome? -
I ha djust finish reading all the post here.
allow me to repharse my position in this post.
I didn't not get my pic from any ppl from the outing, infact I PM the person took the attendance for my pic becos she said the photo is ready please PM.
I do not know there is any of mine or stoner, her reply is "Don't worry, NO"
but few weeks later I get my own naked pic from a person which is not in that outing.
that outing consist of Sentosa , Steamboat and bolwing. they all get all the pics though they nv attend all. Only me and stoner.
If you all can explain this and give me and stoner a good answer, I MIGHT consider telling you where the problem is.
hint: Problem is not on who spread the pic -
What's done is done. No point crying over spilled milk.
I distribute one lah I distribute one lah.
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you think that helps?Originally posted by Nelstar:What's done is done. No point crying over spilled milk.
I distribute one lah I distribute one lah.
one keep pointing finger at others , you keep pointing at yourself. -
phew lucky nobody accuse me
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I really don't mean to be rude FOS, but I have trouble understanding you, I don't know if it's becos of your typos, or langauge, anyway, no worries, I think i get your point.
First of all. the ONUS is on the attendee to contact the photographer once the photos are ready. The photographer (usually myself and bear) will announce in the relevant threads that they are ready, and please PM one of us for them. Even myself, I had to pm bear to get HIS photos, and vice versa. Also, we allow distribution of photos via attendee to attendee, so many pple can get the photos without actually even contacting me.
As for your naked pics, I'm not sure where or who you got the information from that there were none. There were pics of you, because you attended. Not many, but there were. No idea why you were sitting one corner, but nevertheless you were part of the outing, and usually, no one that attended escapes my lens, and it's not becos i have a fetish for shooting everyone. It's just want photographers do.that outing consist of Sentosa , Steamboat and bolwing. they all get all the pics though they nv attend all. Only me and stoner.
This is precisely the problem here? How am I to explain this satisfactorily to you when I myself and trying to get to the bottom of it?If you all can explain this and give me and stoner a good answer, I MIGHT consider telling you where the problem is.
Whether or not this post serves as an explanation to you or not, I am not hard up for your information. I will listen to all experiences regarding this case, only if the person is genuine to the REAL cause of this "investigation" (if i may use that word). the real course, you of course would know since u've read the whole thread, is the PRIVACY of our attendees, YOU INCLUDED. so any info you pass on to me, i will assume it's becos of that reason, not becos i do something to please you (by explaining), and u return the favour.
before anyone jumps saying i'm hostile, please refrain. i mean this is the nicest way, and have nothing against F.O.S. I am just being frank and to the point, and honestly, i'm suck of pple misunderstanding me. You want, i can throw in smileys here and there, but that's not the point. we are all mature adults, and this is nothing personal.
i would like to remind all, this isn't my personal vendetta against anyone. i have repeated many times, it's not MY LOSS if photos are distributed all over the shop becos these photos are technically my bread and butter. however it's our attendees' privacy and my reputation at stake.
I reread your first post and want to bring to attention about getting consent to take your photos. Altho you stated that you do not mind, I would like to make it clear once and for all, (again NOTHING personal to anyone) that is GIVEN that if an outing is attended, your photos WILL be taken. I mean it's not like "no photos, no outing" but if u attended a birthday party, would there be a camera there? if you went to hawaii for holiday, would u bring a camera? when a group of friends gather and have immaculate fun, wat's wrong with a camera? u know, i sound really long-winded saying all this, but i feel the need to.Suggestion :
unfortunately, FOS, i'm gonna have to reject your suggestion politely. there is no need to do so as our outings NEVER ostracise anyone.
If the outing is mean for "some" ppl" only , please don't post in forum or state clearly in future.
If unwelcome ppl truns up, please be genltment to distribute all the pics . It would be better than making more stalkers.
Please, everyone, once again take note. this is not a finger pointing session. Honestly, i could ALREADY know who's been distributing, but i'm not gonna be doing anything about it, as we've decided to put this behind us and let's see wat happens in the future. there WILL still be a cam, the photos WILL still be distributed to attendees upon THEM PMing the respective pple when they are ready. And let's see if this warning helps.
Final note to remember, and i repeat: THIS IS A WARNING, NOT THE MIGISTRATE'S COURT. honestly, i can close this thread after the warning becos that's all i'll do, post and that's it. you think i have so much time to go chase pple? even if i catch the culprit then how? send him a writ of summons?
cmon everyone, this is for everyone's good, i dun intend to point fingers.
FOS: next outing you're at, pls PM me directly for the photos, I'll be most happy to assist you personally.
Having said that, have u signed up for sentosa 2 yet? click the link in my siggy!
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Well, if i were to attend any outing, first and foremost thingy to do is to contact the organiser or co-organisers to confirm my attendance. remembering the nick is optional because a usual practice for an commence of an outing will have stated the number of people going, their nicks, time and venue. i seriously think that it is IMPOSSIBLE to attend an outing without even knowing the organisers as basic. As for the fotos.. each big outing (eg:Sentosa), there will be 1 or 2 assigned Photographers who will be responsible for taking any photos during the outings and they have all rights to distribute those fotos taken to ppl who attended or they can simply delete them away. And the usual practice will be only officially assigned cameras are allowed but then.. u wont suppose the organisers to check the bags of everyone who is attending the outing aint u?Originally posted by F.O.S:Please note : that was stoner and my second outing, we do not know the ppl , remember the nick, nor how to get our pics.
should some one guide the new comer or be nice to keep new comer feel the warm welcome?
well.. for ur last sentence.. are u trying to hint us that u dun feel welcome at all?
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for now.. wot for crying over spilled water? Juz be more cautions about foto thingy in future to avoid all these misunderstanding.
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jOhO:
Thanks and my apology that I sound harsh and my broken English.
I respect your professional as photographer, I do understand your difficulties and appreciate your hard work.
I do not wish to make this issue big becos I receive my 1 and only half naked pic from someone nv attend that outing.
Hope you can understand how me and Stoner feel when we receive our half naked pic from someone not attending that outing. Its kind of shock and disappointed over the outing.
We are not anti-social to sitting 1 corner, but being a new joined member we are first named pervert, hope you guys understand.
one last question : assume during that outing, me and stoner brought camera and start taking pictures of the whole groups. how you guys feel
Once again thank you Joho, appreciates your comment and advise. -
toothie,Originally posted by toothie:Well, if i were to attend any outing, first and foremost thingy to do is to contact the organiser or co-organisers to confirm my attendance. remembering the nick is optional because a usual practice for an commence of an outing will have stated the number of people going, their nicks, time and venue. i seriously think that it is IMPOSSIBLE to attend an outing without even knowing the organisers as basic. As for the fotos.. each big outing (eg:Sentosa), there will be 1 or 2 assigned Photographers who will be responsible for taking any photos during the outings and they have all rights to distribute those fotos taken to ppl who attended or they can simply delete them away. And the usual practice will be only officially assigned cameras are allowed but then.. u wont suppose the organisers to check the bags of everyone who is attending the outing aint u?
well.. for ur last sentence.. are u trying to hint us that u dun feel welcome at all?
I guess you should put me and stoner as newbies to the forum and outing during that time, we do not have problems going outing anymore now.
I am not hinting, I admit I am not welcome by most ppl whom don't know me.
Did I see you before? if no, you are judging me by what I type here or should I say there are PMs going ard gossiping?
As I menetioned in the above post to jOHO, Stoner and Me are "bad guys" in forum. We aspected that we will be treated differently or should I say to reduce conflict, we try to stay away from crowd incase we spoil the outings.
All along Stoner and me enjoy Suntanning ,tok koks and beer which is comfortable enough and we do enjoy ourself sitting 1 corner. Yes! we do introduce ourself once we reach there.
I don't mean all treated us unfriendly, WWW, Anfuni,narz ,erajazz and weidev do give us a warm welcome, but seriously speaking the naked photo do scare us off.
I think I am out of topic, sorry for stiring up all these. -
mayb i am wrong ...jus my comments...is v hard for me to believe tat our pic nv ended in someone hands who nv attended the outings......esp those who have big satalite.....can get pic frm someone thru someone thru someone...cos so many ppl attend outings ...anyway nex time outin i wear ultraman mask
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mi can lend u a croco mask tooOriginally posted by Ah Ma:mayb i am wrong ...jus my comments...is v hard for me to believe tat our pic nv ended in someone hands who nv attended the outings......esp those who have big satalite.....can get pic frm someone thru someone thru someone...cos so many ppl attend outings ...anyway nex time outin i wear ultraman mask 
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teriyaki_chicken think the best is dun take photos lor.
although quite impossible to ban camera phones but @ least ban cameras lor. -
so there's a prob with photos of attendees ended up in somebody elses hands.
and apparently i guess u have pointed very clearly why that has happened.Originally posted by jOhO:
I really don't mean to be rude FOS, but I have trouble understanding you, I don't know if it's becos of your typos, or langauge, anyway, no worries, I think i get your point.
First of all. the ONUS is on the attendee to contact the photographer once the photos are ready. The photographer (usually myself and bear) will announce in the relevant threads that they are ready, and please PM one of us for them. Even myself, I had to pm bear to get HIS photos, and vice versa. [b]Also, we allow distribution of photos via attendee to attendee, so many pple can get the photos without actually even contacting me.
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My ones TOO UGLY I don't dare to ask and see...?Originally posted by windjammer:that is another question that needs to be raised as some forumites who attend the outings din get the photos.....
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As in YOU ASKED FOR IT...??Originally posted by www:not that i know of.
as far as outing owls is concerned, joho and occasionally the bear, are the known photographers during the event.
as long as the pictures are ready, a simple pm will be replied with a link where the photos available.
some participants want the pictures, and some dont.
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I KNEW ITOriginally posted by Nelstar:What's done is done. No point crying over spilled milk.
I distribute one lah I distribute one lah. 
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Nelstar with his right hand, using a chocolate box in the billard room, smuggled the photos... AM I RIGHT??Originally posted by Devil1976:I KNEW IT > " -
the method doesnt make much a difference here.Originally posted by teriyaki_chicken:so there's a prob with photos of attendees ended up in somebody elses hands.
and apparently i guess u have pointed very clearly why that has happened.
take for example, if i have any intention to distribute the photos to people who didnt attend the outing, it doesnt matter if i got them directly or indirectly from joho. -
they`re like victims of sggirls.com..Originally posted by FireIce:i rbered something
if post other ppl's pix can hor? (other ppl = non forumites)
like the undersized pink bikini ger from the recent sentosa outing
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ok, so now i'm starting to feel fingers pointing at me.Originally posted by teriyaki_chicken:so there's a prob with photos of attendees ended up in somebody elses hands.
and apparently i guess u have pointed very clearly why that has happened.
let me give u a scenario.
You host a party and invite 50 people. You have 140 dishes cooked up or catered (becos you're rich) but the catch is that u have to serve EACH dish to EACH person personally.
Dun forget after preparing or paying for the food, you're already pretty shack.
What would you do?
Be so tired until you can't enjoy your own party, or perhaps (since you're so rich) employ waiters to help you?
Dun take this to heart, it's just an ANALOGY, and pardon me for being sarcastic. You sound smart from your ability to highlight in red and "one line sums it up" post, so you should be able to deduce wat i'm trying to say.
Perhaps people who did not attend the outings just don't understand how much effort i put in to shoot those pictures, and how nice it is to view yourself and your friends in action.
For someone who did not attend any outings and know that photos are distributed all over the shop, they will be thinking "hannor, wat's new, sure like dat one lar, how to trust these things?"
i mean, seriously, how does a comment like that HELP at all? hey, i'm not saying u are making that comment, it's just a thought that came in ans i just decided to write it in this post.
you know, i feel like pple are coming in perhaps with good intentions, but i'm "firing" them away. it is not my intention, but i need to not mince words and really come to the point. i do appreciate FOS' understanding in the matter, and would like to see him in future outings, honestly.
i tell u wat lar, teriyaki, why dun u tell me why REdistribution of photos from authorised pple to authorised pple is the problem? i dunno wat discipline you're trained in, but most of us have had management subjects before. remember your flat and tall organisations? remember decentralisation? i mean whether the organisation is flat or tall, every staff member gets a training manual, be if distributed from the president, or his line manager.
this is provided the distribution IS AUTHORISED.
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'Fu shui nan shou'....
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YOU DID IT...Originally posted by Nelstar:'Fu shui nan shou'....
ALL YOUR FAULT... " -
no lah...i remember my science teacher ever taught me ...water will evapour and forms cloud in the sky..then fall back down as rain....Originally posted by Nelstar:'Fu shui nan shou'....
then u can use a container to contain all ur water liao loh...