Should Wong Kan Seng step down or take a pay cut?
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Well I dont agree that he should step down... but my point is that they should do something to show that they are really repentent and willing to make amends...esp for this mistake
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they'll tell you "it's an honest mistake. let's move on....."
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Originally posted by sir_peanuts:
does that mean we have to make do with paying millions with our tax to an incapable person to protect us? if we're the voters and he can't do his job, why must we let him go on doing it?
i think that is for the smart voters to decide.afterall, they are the ones who chose whom they chosed, decades after decades.
quite remarkable, really. Few politico parties in the wer like this long win streak.
maybe, we should understand that it is the voters who gave the mandate. Politico parties like to have their support but its the voters who selected them and gave them power.
so far, I can only say they made the choice which is good or bad, depending on individual.
accountability. honesty. democracy. due diligence. justice. equality. BALANCE.
you make the choice!
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Let's put this into perspective, the state of our institutions are as they are, because the people through the exercise of their voting rights, will it to be so. Yes, you can churn out examples of intimidation, gerrymandering, etc, etc.. but at the end of the day, it is with the majority's consent that produces the system we have. Fault no one else, not our institutions, not our press, not pur political parties, but ourselves if we need to, for we consented to what has become.
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Originally posted by Quincey:
Let's put this into perspective, the state of our institutions are as they are, because the people through the exercise of their voting rights, will it to be so. Yes, you can churn out examples of intimidation, gerrymandering, etc, etc.. but at the end of the day, it is with the majority's consent that produces the system we have. Fault no one else, not our institutions, not our press, not pur political parties, but ourselves if we need to, for we consented to what has become.
EXACTLY!Everyone should be accountable for their actions.
and this is the magic and spirit of Democracy, in my humber opine.
The people decides on the outcome. They , in this respect, must be held accountable one way or the other.
Your decisions affect all things. Doon pray pray. BALANCE is the key. Else what becomes of ACCOUNTABILITY?
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aiyo why we worry who gets pay cut or sacked?
the world got eyes.
the people....errmmm....the peeper....i no no lah. i have to give them benerfit for doubts lor. that they got eyes wan.
lets see how this thing is managed at the end.
see, so many are interested in how sg is managed. who said apathetic?
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well, i kind of expect this to die down already. given another few months, people will forget that the minister screwed up.
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The reason we were given when the ministers were given a pay rise is that theeir responsibilities are huge therefore the pay has to reflect the level of responsibility involved just like in the private sector. In the private sector if the officer of the company screw up and the company incurrs losses the CEO is held accoutable and shareholders will seek the CEO's resignation or no pay rise. In this instance wong kang seng failed us singaporeans. he has to pay through his job or salary cut!~
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Anyone heard that Wong is related to Lee H.L either..distant relative ...by marriage...
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Public sector is public sector, private sector is private sector.
They are different.
So how on earth can their pay be compared?
Bullshit logic from PAP ruling clique.
You don't join politics and serve as a minister because of money.
If this is your motivation, than get the fuck out.
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the (PAP) jury is still out on mr wong. if mas selamat is not found, or worse still, he says hello from sumatra, the gullatine is going to come fast and furious. mr wong and some of his illustrious colleagues from the home affairs ministry will be out of a job. homies or not with the lee clan, the patriach will not be as forgiving.
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definitely cover up lah.
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If private sector CEO made a mistake like losing too much monies in the US Sub-Prime he ought to go graciously or otherwise.
If our ministers have had their salaries benchmarked to private sector CEOs for doing some bill collector jobs or passing of laws and nothing much, they must go too like the private sector CEOs whose salaries they benchmarked.
Why do we pay them higher salaries to do bill collector jobs is a wonder which can only happen in unique Singapore.
What is more unique? When taking that million dollar salaries they can pretend nothing has happen when some terrorist like Mas Selamat escapes from jail and only say all must close rank and work together.
Is that the reason for paying the ministers million dollar salaries for not answering for such high security escape.
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Ah Wong alread saidy "$orry" in Paliament. It is only a mi$take wat and like what Ah Long has said, "What to do, it has happened...."
Life sounds so much peaceful in the Ivory Tower with that simple verbal apology and blur-like-sotong-no-idea-what-happened-mini$ter$ for over 1 week.
At least MM got it right: He give credit to a little limping guy...
Now we see our 3G-enabled security men on extra guard duty....and still as impotent...
Wander how much tax-payer $$$ or economic losses had incured just looking for this guy....
Can S'porean demand for G$T-refund or tax-cut for such "lap$e$" ?
What about CA$E? Can they help?
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they are paid millions because they near half a trillion US$ for SIngapore with a local population of only about 3.5 million. Until now, still got people not getting this into their head. In ten years, when Singapore's fund grows to one trillion US$, the ministers' salaries would double from now. No problems for Singapore.
LKY manages to keep this huge amount of money for Singapore and hand over to the next generations.
Could YOU have done this for ALL OF US? Were you capable of doing this in the first place? I DOUBT.
YOU probably have already pocketed some money and emigrated.
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Originally posted by Daddy!!:
they are paid millions because they near half a trillion US$ for SIngapore with a local population of only about 3.5 million. Until now, still got people not getting this into their head. In ten years, when Singapore's fund grows to one trillion US$, the ministers' salaries would double from now. No problems for Singapore.
LKY manages to keep this huge amount of money for Singapore and hand over to the next generations.
Could YOU have done this for ALL OF US? Were you capable of doing this in the first place? I DOUBT.
YOU probably have already pocketed some money and emigrated.
dun u think part of their coffer comes from the people itself? hoarding the cpf, tax here, tax there, and everything in between, well, i am not sure leh....
keeping this amount to be pass down to the next Lee generations, tt i tend to believe.
if anyone pocketed some money and emigrated as you imply, your ROI is only a fraction of what you put in.
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If YOU are an emigrant, what moral right do you have to comment on the state of affairs in Singapore?
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the truth is many local Singaporeans are making good of their lives as well as their families and many emigrants return to Singapore one day to find themselves very far behind their peers.
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Near trillions? Maybe someone should justify their source instead of using conjectures again.
All from punitive taxes, over-priced public necessities and housing.
They should increase more GST, price electricity higher and charge higher for public housing.
Then they will have even more reserves.
They suck alot, but give back very very little.
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Originally posted by Daddy!!:
If YOU are an emigrant, what moral right do you have to comment on the state of affairs in Singapore?
gee, i didn't know u know me so well.....dun talk abt me, talk about how the gahmen accumulated the whatever trillion $ that u so proudly approved.
firstly, no one knows exactly how much the Lees have `accumulated'. what is printed is not what it seems to be. i have attorney frens working inside MAS and they told me perhaps only 3-5 ppl only knows the extend of sinkapore's wealth. no prizes for guessing who these 3-5 ppl are.
u seemed perfectly fine wif yr money locked in. maybe you are wealthy to not bother, but spare a thot for the majority who struggles daily.
their salary to double? i won't bet against tt too!
by the way, i no emigrant. sorry to dissappoint u. -
Sooner or later, it will become a mocking feast for our dear government with their mishandling of such an important national security matter if this drags on further. I'm pretty much getting nauseous feeling at the bottom of my stomach everday, seeing Mr Mas Selmant photo everywhere i go,. Ps: he wasn't such an eyecandy to begin with, and the haunted image of him appears almost everywhere on the bus, on the train, on the wall of my HDB, on the newspaper that i was reading just now and yet nothing concrete has been happening.
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SINGAPORE : Singapore's Home Affairs Ministry has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with its Cambodian counterpart to combat transnational crime.
The MOU was signed by Deputy Prime Minister Wong Kan Seng and Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Sar Kheng in Phnom Penh on Thursday.
The agreement provides a framework to better understand the challenges of combating transnational crime. It also signals closer bilateral cooperation in the exchange of expertise and information.
Other areas covered include terrorism, cyber crime, drug trafficking (narcotics and psychotropic substances) and forgery of travel documents.
DPM Wong leaves Cambodia for Singapore on Thursday.