Stabbing in NTU - Prof stabbed, student dies
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Warned 3 times
ST breaking news 11.39am 4 MarNANYANG Technological University student David Hartanto Widjaja was warned not once, but three times, that he had to buck up or lose his scholarship.
In the past year, the 21-year-old NTU engineering student received three warning letters, copies of which were sent to his parents in Jakarta, The New Paper reported on Wednesday. But Widjaja's grades did not improve.
Two weeks ago, his scholarship was terminated. On Monday, Widjaja, and Indonesian, stabbed Associate Professor Chan Kap Luk, 45, in the back in his office during a discussion on the student's final year project , then slit his own wrists before fleeing and falling four floors to his death.
An NTU spokesman told TNP: 'Widjaja's Asean scholarship was terminated at the beginning of this year as his grades had fallen below a Grade Point Average (GPA) of 3.5. The school had asked him to seek help for his studies when we noticed that his grades were dropping, but he didn't.'
The spokesman added: 'NTU had also advised him on the various loans offered to him should he have any financial difficulties in his school fees.'
The scholarship's criteria is apparently not at all stringent, and there is no penalty for termination of the study award, said TNP.
Four of NTU's Asean scholars said the scholarship terms were reasonable and they didn't face major difficulties in achieving the required grade - a GPA of at least 3.5 for each semester, an equivalent of a B grade.
Was it the stress of the final year project that led to Widjaja's tragic death then?
Many final-year students didn't think it should have caused such a dramatic reaction.
A group of Electrical and Electronic Engineering students told TNP that the stress of possibly wasting three years of hard work because of a poorly done FYP was very real.
Said Wayne Lim, 26: 'Your FYP grades will eventually affect your overall results. IT's easy for your grades to slip, but harder for them to go up again.'
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gosh, i so agree. it's so hard to get good results, but very easy to do badly.
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NTU prof discharged
The professor who was stabbed by a student at the Nanyang Technological University on Monday was discharged from hospital at around 9.45 am today.
Associate Professor Chan Kap Luk sustained injuries to his back and hand and had been warded at the National University Hospital.
Prof Chan was attacked in his office by his student, 21-year-old David Hartanto Widjaja.
The undergraduate was said to have slit his wrist thereafter and leapt off a building in the engineering faculty.
He died from his injuries.
His body was cremated yesterday.
Meanwhile his parents and elder brother who had arrived in Singapore on Monday night to help identify the body, are expected to head back to Jarkarta today.
--938Live
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I am one of David Hartanto's close friend and I am here to give you
some facts, assumptions, possibilities about this case
Facts:
1. Lok Tat Seng: Dean of Student of NTU gathered all Indonesian students in
International Student Center on evening after incident and he just said there was
witness on the spot who saw David's body lying on the ground, dead.
Dean did not said that witness saw David jumped from balcony.
And that is, according to him, all he has saw.
2. The only official statement from police is: David was found dead at
the crime scene, they did not mention whether he commited suicide.
The link: No more PDF liao
They also just mention 'The professor was believed to be stabbed'.
The police did not say that 'the professor was stabbed'.
Where this assumption come from?
Why they did not say about it?
3. I and some Indonesian students gather tonight, 3 March 2009, at 8 pm,
at International Student Center and talked to David's parent.
They have seen his body. There was NO WOUND whatsoever on his wrists
and police also has confirmed it.
I assumed that his parent would not lie it means that all media news about
'David slashed his wrist' was FAKE.
4. The wounds found on David's body, according to his parents,
were on his head (It is assumed due to fall injury),
and slash wound on his neck. The wound on his neck is very suspicious, in
my opinion. How he received that wound??
Again, according to his parent, police guessed that it may be happened
when the bottom part of his head smashed the ground.
In that case, his chin will have broken and it did not.
My question is: WHERE DOES THAT SLASH WOUND ON HIS NECK CAME FROM?
Assumptions:
1. David stabbed professor. How did you know? The crime scene is closed room,
only David and that professor. No one see what has happened.
Eye-witness only saw David run out from that room.
2. David commited suicide. How could someone who commited suicide drop himself
into glassed roof, instead of directly drop himself to ground.
3. David slashed his wrist. I do not know where this news came from...
4. David's motivation.
4.1. He pissed off since his prof did not give satisfactory grade
The grade has not been released and he even has not submitted the report.
It is also NTu policy not to inform the student about the grade which they got
before release of the result.
4.2. He has mental problem
No record in Student Counselling Centre about his attendance. For bright student
as him, I did not believe that he did not attend counseling if he has some
problems. Also, he still brought bag with usual daily stuff, on incident day,
such as drink bottle, towel, etc. If David planned to kill someone why would
he prepare to bring such things. It is easier for him to just bring one knife
and stab his prof on spot.
4.3. He pissed off because his scholarship has been revoked
I knew David since I was his roommate for 2 consecutive
years during Mathematical Olympiad training camp. He almost did not
qualify for IMO, only managed to get at 14th rank from 15 people selected.
He still joked and laughed to me at that time. He also did not get anything
from IMO and still fine, not seemed depressed whatsoever, and according to his parents,
he said 'At least, I managed to represent Indonesia at IMO'
He also still play Hammerfall game in Facebook at 2 am on the incident day.
My friend saw his Facebook account online. How come
a murderer played game in the night before incident? If I was him,
I will seriously think how would I prepare myself tomorrow
Possibilities:
1. Professor attacked David. I deduced this thing for several key points.
According to many reports, David's cloth was soaked on blood. If the blood is
the result from slashing his wrist, it should not soak his cloth since wrist is
far from body. If the wound is from neck, it is easier.
2. David tried to run from Professor. After he realized that he was attacked,
he resisted and run from that room, with wound on his neck.
3. David falled because of unconsciousness. He became panic and probably lose his common sense
because of terrible bleeding, drop himself down into glassed roof to escape from his Professor.
I am responsible for what I have written here, and contact me at kaminari.no.me@gmail.com
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woah. conspiracy.
the blood on his shirt, can it be analysed?
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This as quoted from comments in the ST online forum.
There are indeed a few dubious points. FYP so difficult meh? I heard below average students also can pass. GPA of 3.5 is not difficult at all, what's more he's a whiz kid. Even if he lost the scholarship, does it warrant a killing?
Maybe some people are simply mentally unsound and you cant predict the shit he's gonna do. But then again, I look at all the related reports in ST, it seems eerily like they're trying to paint him as a desperado who's got the wrong person.
I'm not saying there is a cover up of sorts but I do smell a rat.
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This is just sad....haiz =(
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gosh.. cannot trust anything in this world
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aiya.. if really got "rat" ... u think NTU will risk all those things to cover of just 1 prof ? risk the whole NTU ler ... if this things tiok ppl find out, whole NTU will go down ler ... not worth it ..
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Originally posted by jay_rocks:
gosh.. cannot trust anything in this world
At least yourself. -
a bouquet of flowers(i'm not good w/ flower names) & a stalk of rose lay on the site deceased landed.
the bridge...
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i just found a blog by an indonesian blogger and he was writing about what the family were saying about the whole incident and adding new twists.
So I just translated it on my blog ( the content is an eye opener i have to say ) and then one of David's close friend came and comment on it making it even more interesting!
Come and read it !
mistabird.wordpress.com -
Hmm, theres a nagging doubt, but why did the technician hang himself too?
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Originally posted by dubbie:
i just found a blog by an indonesian blogger and he was writing about what the family were saying about the whole incident and adding new twists.
So I just translated it on my blog ( the content is an eye opener i have to say ) and then one of David's close friend came and comment on it making it even more interesting!
Come and read it !
mistabird.wordpress.comlazy
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media - government at work
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yday i was online the other day gathering news from blogs and all....
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David died while he was sleepwalking. He stabbed the professor in his dream. Very common nowadays among people who played games till late night. He fell down the balcony cos he was sleeping doh.
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you guys are fools, say what that guy got low grades thats why he stab his teacher or discipline or whatever shit. If a person is driven to commit suicide, surely his mental health is in a very bad condition because something is going on in his life that traumatized him, dont anyhow talk cock if you dont know shit.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
I am one of David Hartanto's close friend and I am here to give you
some facts, assumptions, possibilities about this case
Facts:
1. Lok Tat Seng: Dean of Student of NTU gathered all Indonesian students in
International Student Center on evening after incident and he just said there was
witness on the spot who saw David's body lying on the ground, dead.
Dean did not said that witness saw David jumped from balcony.
And that is, according to him, all he has saw.
2. The only official statement from police is: David was found dead at
the crime scene, they did not mention whether he commited suicide.
The link: No more PDF liao
They also just mention 'The professor was believed to be stabbed'.
The police did not say that 'the professor was stabbed'.
Where this assumption come from?
Why they did not say about it?
3. I and some Indonesian students gather tonight, 3 March 2009, at 8 pm,
at International Student Center and talked to David's parent.
They have seen his body. There was NO WOUND whatsoever on his wrists
and police also has confirmed it.
I assumed that his parent would not lie it means that all media news about
'David slashed his wrist' was FAKE.
4. The wounds found on David's body, according to his parents,
were on his head (It is assumed due to fall injury),
and slash wound on his neck. The wound on his neck is very suspicious, in
my opinion. How he received that wound??
Again, according to his parent, police guessed that it may be happened
when the bottom part of his head smashed the ground.
In that case, his chin will have broken and it did not.
My question is: WHERE DOES THAT SLASH WOUND ON HIS NECK CAME FROM?
Assumptions:
1. David stabbed professor. How did you know? The crime scene is closed room,
only David and that professor. No one see what has happened.
Eye-witness only saw David run out from that room.
2. David commited suicide. How could someone who commited suicide drop himself
into glassed roof, instead of directly drop himself to ground.
3. David slashed his wrist. I do not know where this news came from...
4. David's motivation.
4.1. He pissed off since his prof did not give satisfactory grade
The grade has not been released and he even has not submitted the report.
It is also NTu policy not to inform the student about the grade which they got
before release of the result.
4.2. He has mental problem
No record in Student Counselling Centre about his attendance. For bright student
as him, I did not believe that he did not attend counseling if he has some
problems. Also, he still brought bag with usual daily stuff, on incident day,
such as drink bottle, towel, etc. If David planned to kill someone why would
he prepare to bring such things. It is easier for him to just bring one knife
and stab his prof on spot.
4.3. He pissed off because his scholarship has been revoked
I knew David since I was his roommate for 2 consecutive
years during Mathematical Olympiad training camp. He almost did not
qualify for IMO, only managed to get at 14th rank from 15 people selected.
He still joked and laughed to me at that time. He also did not get anything
from IMO and still fine, not seemed depressed whatsoever, and according to his parents,
he said 'At least, I managed to represent Indonesia at IMO'
He also still play Hammerfall game in Facebook at 2 am on the incident day.
My friend saw his Facebook account online. How come
a murderer played game in the night before incident? If I was him,
I will seriously think how would I prepare myself tomorrow
Possibilities:
1. Professor attacked David. I deduced this thing for several key points.
According to many reports, David's cloth was soaked on blood. If the blood is
the result from slashing his wrist, it should not soak his cloth since wrist is
far from body. If the wound is from neck, it is easier.
2. David tried to run from Professor. After he realized that he was attacked,
he resisted and run from that room, with wound on his neck.
3. David falled because of unconsciousness. He became panic and probably lose his common sense
because of terrible bleeding, drop himself down into glassed roof to escape from his Professor.
I am responsible for what I have written here, and contact me at kaminari.no.me@gmail.com
if you need any clarification.
I agree the statement that Rock^Star had mention is most probably true since the main focus was the final year project he was working on.To understand what has happen we need to know does the final year project got to dowith goverment involvement in it if it does it make perfect sense to do a cover up onthis incident through the media since his project i believe was a multi - intelligent video surveillience system which he was working on i stumble this info when i was browsing the web -
Originally posted by skeujin:
once i was out of school grounds with a group of classmates. some of them were smoking and a teacher came n caught us all. accusation based on we were smoking.
i protested that i didnt smoke (never started till i joined the army, not even a puff),even my classmates vouched for me.
but this dumb arse of a teacher, insisted he saw me smoke, called my parents down n i got scolded n slapped by my dad.
What the hell? And you didn't do anything? I would have assaulted the teacher!
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the family members quite quiet arh.
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Originally posted by Q.C.Pak:
Stabbing cases happen almost every week in Singapore...
what's the big hoohaa?
No Singapore is a Crime Free Country with so Minimal Crime its very peacefull, Unlike in the US,Phil,Europe,Middle East where there are many tough people and violence -
The dead cant tell tales. Well, who's alive and who's not. Seriously, this is fishy.