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  • M©+square's Avatar
    22,881 posts since Nov '02
    • A historical drama The Battle of Red Cliff re-creates the legendary Chinese battle from 208 A.D. that led directly to the end of the Han Dynasty. The film charts how different factions joined forces to create this turning point in history.

      Director: John Woo

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      Tony Liang Chaowei - Zhou Yu
      Zhao Wei - Sun Shangxiang
      Zhang Zhen / CHANG Chen - Sun Quan
      Zhang Fengyi - Cao Cao
      Lin Zhiling / LIN Chi-ling - Xiao Qiao
      Hu Jun - Zhao Yun
      You Yong - Liu Bei
      Jin Chengwu / Takeshi KANESHIRO - ZhuGe Liang
      TONG Dawei - Sun Shucai

      History,

      Chang Chen resigned from the cast, came back.
      Tony Leung resigned from cast - originally as Zhuge Liang, reaccept the role as Zhou Yu.
      Chow Yun Fatt resigned from cast - originally as Zhou Yu, the role when to Tony Leung.
      Takeshi KANESHIRO was invited to take up the role as Zhuge Liang.

      Stars who were in the intended list:
      Jet Li
      Zhang Ziyi
      Ken Watanabe

      Pretty disappointed that Chow Yun Fatt is dropped. And Takeshi taking the role of Zhuge Liang. Don't think he can put it off.

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    laurence82's Avatar
    91,599 posts since Nov '03
    • takeshi acting as zhuge kongming a bit weird

      unless they are trying to project a different sort of personalities in the movie

      which i dont noe

  • M©+square's Avatar
    22,881 posts since Nov '02
    • Originally posted by laurence82:
      takeshi acting as zhuge kongming a bit weird

      unless they are trying to project a different sort of personalities in the movie

      which i dont noe

      I agree Takeshi is not a very good candidate, me feels.
      They are altering the characters of all the historical figures.
      So let's wait and see.

  • Xtrider's Avatar
    2,356 posts since Jul '06
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    Gordonator's Avatar
    43,209 posts since Jul '04
  • Herzog_Zwei's Avatar
    5,142 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by Gordonator:
      lin zhi ling jie jie! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

      Zhi Ling jie jie should stay away from historical roles, darn hard for her to act like one. Zhao Wei also cannot make it as Sun Shang Xiang.

  • seotiblizzard's Avatar
    25,433 posts since Apr '06
    • romance of the 3 kingdoms.

      Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

      where is zhang fei?

      guan yu?

      huang zhong?

      ma chao?

      xia hou dun?

      sima yi?

      Confused Confused Confused

      Edited by seotiblizzard 28 Dec `07, 2:58AM
  • felirox's Avatar
    3,102 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by seotiblizzard:
      where is zhao yun?

      guan yu?

      huang zhong?

      ma chao?

      xia hou dun?

      sima yi?

      Confused Confused Confused

      during the battle of re cliff Ma chao huang zhong were still not serving SHU. And huan Yu, i tihkn he was somewehere guarding a certain place. Sima yi was years after the battle of red cliff and xiahou dun..not sure..I cant wait for this movie! anyway they should have let a middle aged man to paly zhugeliang's role. takeshi is too young to play tt role.

      Edited by felirox 28 Dec `07, 3:04AM
  • seotiblizzard's Avatar
    25,433 posts since Apr '06
    • Originally posted by felirox:
      during the battle of re cliff Ma chao huang zhong were still not serving SHU. And huan Yu, i tihkn he was somewehere guarding a certain place. Sima yi was years after the battle of red cliff and xiahou dun..not sure..

      Oh.

      Zhang fei?

      Surprised

      ooh.

      i not sure abt the chronological events that happen.

      then lu bu death is before this or after?

  • felirox's Avatar
    3,102 posts since Nov '05
    • Originally posted by seotiblizzard:
      Oh.

      Zhang fei?

      Surprised

      ooh.

      i not sure abt the chronological events that happen.

      then lu bu death is before this or after?

      before. as for zhang fei,i'm not so sure too but i think both liu bei's sworn brothers were guarding the shu kingdom. I wonder if they will show how zhugeliang maanged to get 10 000 arrows in a space of three days!

  • seotiblizzard's Avatar
    25,433 posts since Apr '06
    • Originally posted by felirox:
      before. as for zhang fei,i'm not so sure too but i think both liu bei's sworn brothers were guarding the shu kingdom. I wonder if they will show how zhugeliang maanged to get 10 000 arrows in a space of three days!

      Shocked

      10 000 arrows?

      in 3 days?

      wad the...

      Oh.

      -Potential Spoilers-

      This one is the burning of the ships right.

      where the kong ming will pray for wind.


      Laughing

  • felirox's Avatar
    3,102 posts since Nov '05
    • Laughing Laughing

      Channel 8 once aired the show abt the Han dynasty..how i wish there's a repeat telecast. I just like zhugeliang. Pure genius!

  • seotiblizzard's Avatar
    25,433 posts since Apr '06
  • felirox's Avatar
    3,102 posts since Nov '05
    • China. Its a 100 plus episodes show i supposed. youtube has a vid where zhugeliang managed to collect 10 000 arrows in the space of three days. There’s no exact date when the show will be released?

  • seotiblizzard's Avatar
    25,433 posts since Apr '06
    • oh.

      Ok.

      Btw

      According to Han Sanping, veteran producer and the CEO of China Film Group, one of the chief investors in the film, The Battle of Red Cliff currently has too much material to include in a single feature. It will therefore be divided into two episodes, with the first to be released before the 2008 Summer Olympics, and the second only at the end of 2008. Producer Terence Chang confirmed this, saying that the Chinese government views the film as a showcase of Chinese history and wants it released before the Olympic Games

      Shocked Shocked Shocked

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cliff_%28film%29

  • M©+square's Avatar
    22,881 posts since Nov '02
    • In the Red Cliff Battle - Battle of Chibi, Zhuge Liang was actually in his late twenties.

      However, Takeshi is just not the right person for this role. Not convinced that he is able to take up this cast as Zhuge Liang.

  • felirox's Avatar
    3,102 posts since Nov '05
  • xfool's Avatar
    1,263 posts since Oct '02
    • Originally posted by seotiblizzard:
      Oh.

      Zhang fei?

      Surprised

      ooh.

      i not sure abt the chronological events that happen.

      then lu bu death is before this or after?

      before this of course.

  • M©+square's Avatar
    22,881 posts since Nov '02
    • Originally posted by felirox:
      hmm so who do u think who is able to take up zhuge's role?

      Still thinking. Actually the ideal person is Tony Leung.

  • extrinsic's Avatar
    478 posts since May '07
    • Originally posted by M©+square:
      Still thinking. Actually the ideal person is Tony Leung.

      he dun have the "zhou yu" feel either.
      zhou yu supposely is a handsome+girlish man, whose outer appearence outshines...
      heng Chow Yun Fatt not zhou yu.. he is too fat to be zhou yu.
      takeshi as zhuge also sad... no intellect look from him also..

      never say who acted xu shu, pang tong and huang gai? they were ppl who contributed to success of the chain-fire tactics.
      Sun Shangxiang existance is better as none. just want to bring publicity by introducing more stars?

      but still will catch the show, hope it dun disappoint me..

    • Originally posted by seotiblizzard:
      romance of the 3 kingdoms.

      Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

      where is zhang fei?

      guan yu?

      huang zhong?

      ma chao?

      xia hou dun?

      sima yi?

      Confused Confused Confused

      zhang fei + guan yu played only a small part in chibi..
      they are only there at the ending where they rounded up cao cao defeated armies under instructions of zhuge.

      famous point is where guan yu sets free cao cao at huarong trail, as he feels he is indebted to the latter.

      huang zhong, ma chao, sima yi are not involved in chi bi

      xiahou was not mentioned in red cliff battle, so i suppose during that time he is sent to guard cities?

  • M©+square's Avatar
    22,881 posts since Nov '02
    • Originally posted by extrinsic:
      he dun have the "zhou yu" feel either.
      zhou yu supposely is a handsome+girlish man, whose outer appearence outshines...
      heng Chow Yun Fatt not zhou yu.. he is too fat to be zhou yu.
      takeshi as zhuge also sad... no intellect look from him also..

      never say who acted xu shu, pang tong and huang gai? they were ppl who contributed to success of the chain-fire tactics.
      Sun Shangxiang existance is better as none. just want to bring publicity by introducing more stars?

      but still will catch the show, hope it dun disappoint me..

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      Doesn't pull off quite well.

      Aaron might come off as one of the candiate, his performance has improved so much. But of cos, these are all in the thoughts of selecting for fill in sake. There isn't any actors who can fit into the Zhou Yu image, at this moment of time.

      I'm actually looking forward to Leon Lai's performance as Zhou Yu the other 3K installation.

      The down side of taking Zhou Yu's role is, that dude have to speak chinese. So most HK artiste is put off by it.

      Still watch the movie, but not expecting much. Laughing

      Edited by M©+square 28 Dec `07, 2:58PM
  • 798's Avatar
    29,309 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by Gordonator:
      lin zhi ling jie jie! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

      sad to say she will have streamy role wif tony leung. Mad

  • extrinsic's Avatar
    478 posts since May '07
    • actually, at first, i thought they would get a female actress to cross-act as zhou yu... haha.. since zhou yu is look like a gu niang more going by the story. Smile

  • 798's Avatar
    29,309 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by extrinsic:
      actually, at first, i thought they would get a female actress to cross-act as zhou yu... haha.. since zhou yu is look like a gu niang more going by the story. Smile

      agree! tis is ultimate insult to mei zhou nan! Evil or Very Mad

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