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  • aremeis's Avatar
    256 posts since Nov '07
    • Two nightmare scenarios, two ends of the world. In the first, there is little warning. For maybe a month there would be no sign that life was about to come to an abrupt and nasty end for all living things on Earth.

      Then, earthquakes would start unexpectedly, alerting geologists that something terrible, unimaginable, was amiss.

      After a few days, these seismic disturbances would reach catastrophic proportions.

      Cities would be levelled, the oceans would rise and wash in a series of mega-tsunamis that would attack the world's coasts, killing millions.
      Is the end of the world nigh? Doom-mongers fear the consequences of scientists replicating the Big Bang

      The fact that the earthquakes were striking randomly, not along well-known geological faultlines, would be proof that something devastating was afoot.

      Finally, the end would come, in a disaster of Biblical scale. The Earth would literally start to crack up.

      Molten lava would wash over the land and the seas would start to boil.

      Mega-hurricanes would level buildings and forests the world over. Eventually, mountains would crumble as the Earth's crust continued to disintegrate.

      The fabric of the planet itself would start to disappear, trillions of tonnes of rock, water, air and life sucked into a whirlpool of unimaginable force.

      From space, our blue-and-white home would appear to vanish down a plughole in a flash of light.
      At least in this scenario we would have a little time, perhaps, to come to terms with the end.

      However, a second doomsday scenario is even more terrifying. There would be no warning at all.
      In an instant - about one-twentieth of a second - the entire Earth would simply vanish from space.

      Less than two seconds later, the Moon would follow suit. Eight minutes later, the Sun would be ripped apart, followed by the rest of the planets in the solar system and onwards, a wave of destruction caused by a rent in the fabric of space itself, spreading out from our world at the speed of light.
      Any extra-terrestrials out there would die too, in due course. And there would be nothing technology could do about it.

      But why should we now be worrying about such possible causes of Armageddon?

      The answer is a gargantuan machine - the largest, most expensive scientific experiment in history, the 'Large Hadron Collider', to be turned on next Wednesday.

      Doom? The Large Hadron Collider CMS detector under construction

      Although it was designed to answer the fundamental questions of life, some people have claimed that it could end up destroying the entire cosmos.

      This gigantic £4 billion-plus atom-smasher has been built under the Swiss-French border near Geneva, and is the most powerful device ever built for probing the secrets of the atom and the forces and particles which make up our Universe.

      It is a staggering device, occupying a train-sized tunnel 18 miles long, buried 300ft underground, studded with gigantic, cathedral-sized ring-shaped detectors where collisions between packets of 'heavy' subatomic particles, 'hadrons', will take place in the hope that the innermost workings of matter and energy will be revealed.

      The LHC is, arguably, the most impressive machine ever built by Mankind.

      But a few people are convinced that it should never be turned on. A lawsuit has been lodged at the European Court For Human Rights by a small group of maverick scientists.

      They claim there is a small - but not zero - chance that when the LHC is activated it will create either a mini-black hole which would fall into the ground and swallow the Earth from within (scenario one).

      Or, even more bizarrely, trigger a catastrophic chain reaction in the very fabric of space and time itself, which would rip apart the entire universe like the skin of a bursting balloon (scenario two).

      Bizarrely, this group, led by a German chemist called Otto Rossler, are using the European Convention on human rights to argue that, should the LHC destroy the entire Universe, it would 'violate the right to life and right to private family life'.

      In fact, since 1994, when the collider was first mooted by the multi-national European nuclear research organisation (CERN), a small number of doomsayers have claimed that by replicating the conditions pertaining at the start of the universe (Big Bang), about 13,700 million years ago, there would be a small but real risk an unstoppable cataclysm would take place.

      This is not a threat taken seriously by the scientists at CERN. When I visited the place a couple of years ago, to see the collider being built, any mention of mini-black holes and other risks elicited only raised eyebrows and shrugs of derision.

      The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is an underground accelerator ring 27 kilometres in circumference at the CERN Laboratory in Switzerland. It will recreate the conditions at the birth of the universe by smashing protons together at incredibly high speeds


      The ALICE experiment's inner tracker is integrated. Collisions in the LHC will generate temperatures more than 100,000 times hotter than the heart of the Sun. Physicists hope that under these conditions, the protons and neutrons will 'melt', creatingquark‑gluon plasma, which is believed to have existed soon after the Big Bang.


      Workers dig tunnels where counter-circulating beams will be dumped. Travelling just a fraction under the speed of light, the beams at the LHC will each carry the energy of an aircraft carrier travelling at 12 knots. In order to dispose of these beams safely, a beam dump is used to extract the beam and diffuse it before it collides with a radiation shielded graphite target.


      A technician walks under the core magnet of the CMS experiment (Compact Muon Solenoid). This will search for the 'Higgs boson'. Peter Higgs suggested that all particles had no mass just after the Big Bang. As the Universe cooled an invisible force field called the 'Higgs field' formed together with the 'Higgs boson'. Any particles that interact with it are given a mass. Scientists hope this experiment will prove the theory.


      ATLAS (A Toroidal LHC Apparatus) is one of the six particle detector experiments at the Large Hadron Collider. A small group of scientists fear the LHC could create a black hole that would swallow the Earth.

      The LHC was not designed to destroy the universe, of course, but to fill in some of the embarrassingly large gaps that still run through our basic understanding of physics and how the universe works.

      It could discover, for instance, what most of the Universe is actually made of.

      The ordinary 'stuff' that we see around us - the atoms and molecules of water, carbon, iron, oxygen and the rest that make up our bodies, the planet Earth, the Moon, the other planets, the Sun and all the stars - actually accounts for only about one part in 25 of the total 'ingredients' of the cosmos.

      Astronomers know that something else, invisible and mysterious, must pervade every inch of space, its subtle gravity affecting the movements of the galaxy.

      This material - no one really has a clue what it is - has been dubbed 'dark matter' and it is hoped that the collider just might shed some light on what it is, perhaps uncovering a new type of particle.

      Perhaps more embarrassingly, we don't know what it is that gives even ordinary matter its mass.

      In the 1960s, British physicist Peter Higgs proposed the existence of a new particle, now known as the 'Higgs Particle', which effectively lends 'weight' to the stuff of the universe.

      So important and fundamental is this hypothetical entity that it has been dubbed the 'God particle'.

      It is hoped that if Higgs is right, the collider could finally clear up this mystery and, as a result of its super-powerful collisions, traces of this particle could emerge.

      That alone would, in itself, be justification for a large chunk of that £4 billion outlay. By simulating the Big Bang, it is hoped the LHC will act as a 'universe in a test tube', allowing scientists to examine a whole suite of exotic subatomic particles and forces and to go some way to completing the work started by Einstein and the other giants of 20th-century physics.

      So is there really a chance that the scientists have made a terrible miscalculation and that their new toy could inadvertently kill us all?
      Happily, the simple answer is no. CERN's scientists have in fact commissioned several safety reviews (such as those that have taken place before other big particle accelerators have been turned on).

      All have concluded that there is no measurable risk whatsoever. Perhaps the best argument against the LHC doomsday scenario is that cosmic rays - natural high-energy particles from space - smash into the Earth's atmosphere all the time with far, far more energy than will be generated by this machine.

      If it were possible to create a dangerous black hole by simply bashing atomic particles together, this would have happened naturally long ago, and we wouldn't be here to build this particle accelerator in the first place. So we are safe.
      In fact, what the scientists at CERN really fear is not the end of the world, but that their machine simply isn't big or powerful enough to uncover anything new - that to probe the deepest secrets of the cosmos they will have to ask for yet more cash to build something on an even greater scale.

      Either that, or their equations are simply wrong and a whole new approach is needed, despite the billions they have spent.

      Not a doomsday for Earth, perhaps, but a catastrophe for physics.
      As for the rest of us, we have to hope that the scientists have done their sums right - and keep our fingers crossed next Wednesday.

      Source: Daily Mail UK, September 6, 2008

       

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      Edited by aremeis 08 Sep `08, 12:10AM
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    FireIce's Avatar
    169,036 posts since Dec '99
    • ya ya ya
      we shd have all died during the millennium rite?

      Edited by FireIce 08 Sep `08, 12:05AM
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    wonderamazement's Avatar
    13,495 posts since Dec '04
    • but then again... they compared the chance of creating some doomsday thingy as to winning the lottery sia.

  • a-Lost-9uY's Avatar
    5,141 posts since Sep '06
  • maurizio13's Avatar
    12,500 posts since Sep '06
    •  

      i bet everything i have that the world won't end.

      anybody want to take up the bet? icon_lol.gif

       

  • novelltie's Avatar
    249 posts since Jul '08
    • Originally posted by maurizio13:

       

      i bet everything i have that the world won't end.

      anybody want to take up the bet? icon_lol.gif

       

      i bet with everything you have that the world will end... icon_lol.gif

  • icyboiz's Avatar
    1,048 posts since Dec '06
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    3,888 posts since Jun '08
  • pigsticker's Avatar
    3,018 posts since Jan '08
    • Odds of the LHC destroying the planet: 500,000,000 to 1.

      Best quote i saw on another website

      It is a portal for Satan to enter our world!

  • novelltie's Avatar
    249 posts since Jul '08
    • any day is an auspicious day to meet our maker together plus it's going to be like a BIG FAMILY REUNION! you will meet your ancestors and old friends, classmates or even enemies from your childhood.

      sounds like fun?

      Edited by novelltie 08 Sep `08, 1:23AM
  • Fantagf's Avatar
    3,888 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by novelltie:

      any day is an auspicious day to meet our maker together plus it's going to be like a BIG FAMILY REUNION! you will meet your ancestors and old friends, classmates or even enemies from your childhood.

      sounds like fun?


      hello, not all are christians.

  • maurizio13's Avatar
    12,500 posts since Sep '06
    •  

      anyway black holes are created by super red giants going supernova, thereafter either a neutron star or a black hole will form.

       

       

       

  • Miracles&Prophecies's Avatar
    926 posts since Dec '07
    • No chance the world would come to an end. It's not biblical at all. According to the bible the world would come to an end a long time after Jesus second coming. No i'm not preaching just that when most people think about the biblical end of time they don't know the bible.

      Anyway perhaps the device would let loose a couple of demons . . . .I read somewhere that the scientists were trying to get a glimpse of another dimension. Something like that with the operation of the device is possible. A gateway to the other side? Hmmmmpppfffffffff . . .Stargate anyone? LOL.

      Funny to think that scientist could build such seemingly advance machine for research purposes while the world is still solely and hopelessly dependant on the extract of dead animal, that is oil.

      Edited by Miracles&Prophecies 08 Sep `08, 9:06AM
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  • domonkassyu's Avatar
    1,170 posts since Sep '07
    • Originally posted by pigsticker:

      Odds of the LHC destroying the planet: 500,000,000 to 1.

      Best quote i saw on another website

      hmm..odds will be 50%.....

  • domonkassyu's Avatar
    1,170 posts since Sep '07
    • Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:

      No chance the world would come to an end. It's not biblical at all. According to the bible the world would come to an end a long time after Jesus second coming. No i'm not preaching just that when most people think about the biblical end of time they don't know the bible.

      Anyway perhaps the device would let loose a couple of demons . . . .I read somewhere that the scientists were trying to get a glimpse of another dimension. Something like that with the operation of the device is possible. A gateway to the other side? Hmmmmpppfffffffff . . .Stargate anyone? LOL.

      Funny to think that scientist could build such seemingly advance machine for research purposes while the world is still solely and hopelessly dependant on the extract of dead animal, that is oil.

      the world we live in nw will end..n tats entirely biblical...but the earth itself will not be destroyed..tats the diff..

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  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,380 posts since Jul '07
    • has any government went into a state of emergency yet? is there any sudden planned schedule for powerful people to pack their families and go into outerspace with enough supplies to last a lifetime?

  • dukedracula's Avatar
    240 posts since Feb '08
    • that will be the date when time travel will begin to be further explored….lol…the bending of light and all natural element…...

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