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  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    97 posts since May '08
  • fatone's Avatar
    651 posts since Sep '07
  • SBS7484P's Avatar
    3,378 posts since Dec '07
  • Stucktoes's Avatar
    167 posts since Apr '08
    • Depending on what kind of officers. And whether they know how to do their job or not. If he does his job well, and maximise his power to its limit, no comment. If he doesn't do his job well, and yet maximise his power for his personal gain, then fark him. If he doesn't do his job well, but doesn't abuse his power (ar ka liao with the man), no complaints.

      If his ego speaks louder than his capability or his rank, then fark him.

      If he is an NSF who happens to make it to OCS because he got gold for IPPT, but got no brains, then fark him.

      If your officer has the lowest peer appraisal in his unit during his OCS days, you know the kind of quality you will get already.

      It all depends. I find some 3sgts who are NSF doing a better job than some one-bars who only know how to talk (albeit nonsense also), extra (when you kena f by high ups or rsm, come in add fuel that kind) and eat and sleep.

  • Unknown_X's Avatar
    1,353 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by Stucktoes:

      Depending on what kind of officers. And whether they know how to do their job or not. If he does his job well, and maximise his power to its limit, no comment. If he doesn't do his job well, and yet maximise his power for his personal gain, then fark him. If he doesn't do his job well, but doesn't abuse his power (ar ka liao with the man), no complaints.

      If his ego speaks louder than his capability or his rank, then fark him.

      If he is an NSF who happens to make it to OCS because he got gold for IPPT, but got no brains, then fark him.

      If your officer has the lowest peer appraisal in his unit during his OCS days, you know the kind of quality you will get already.

      It all depends. I find some 3sgts who are NSF doing a better job than some one-bars who only know how to talk (albeit nonsense also), extra (when you kena f by high ups or rsm, come in add fuel that kind) and eat and sleep.


      well said. i got a WO, whose ego speaks louder than his capability and rank, half the time ar ka liao with us and also will help speak up for us sometimes. but he also talk, eat and add fuel sometimes. how to rate this kind sia.

  • fatone's Avatar
    651 posts since Sep '07
    • Originally posted by Unknown_X:


      well said. i got a WO, whose ego speaks louder than his capability and rank, half the time ar ka liao with us and also will help speak up for us sometimes. but he also talk, eat and add fuel sometimes. how to rate this kind sia.

      lol warrants...made a fool out of so many le

  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    97 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by SBS7484P:

      how do you define too much by you standards?

       

      I just want views, so how much is up to you.

  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    97 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Stucktoes:

      Depending on what kind of officers. And whether they know how to do their job or not. If he does his job well, and maximise his power to its limit, no comment. If he doesn't do his job well, and yet maximise his power for his personal gain, then fark him. If he doesn't do his job well, but doesn't abuse his power (ar ka liao with the man), no complaints.

      If his ego speaks louder than his capability or his rank, then fark him.

      If he is an NSF who happens to make it to OCS because he got gold for IPPT, but got no brains, then fark him.

      If your officer has the lowest peer appraisal in his unit during his OCS days, you know the kind of quality you will get already.

      It all depends. I find some 3sgts who are NSF doing a better job than some one-bars who only know how to talk (albeit nonsense also), extra (when you kena f by high ups or rsm, come in add fuel that kind) and eat and sleep.

      BTW, my office(CAC) got 1 officer, he is 2lt, quite slack de.

      Pes B & above need do reservist right? until old. =.=

      Then he say after 2yrs go medical downgrade then dunnid do reservist. =.=

      What kind of officer is this lol.

  • Unknown_X's Avatar
    1,353 posts since Jul '04
    • your officer dreaming ah. pes C also need to do NS. heck, i've said many times before in other threads. even saw pes E coming back too. your officer from which unit CAC so cute one?

  • Stucktoes's Avatar
    167 posts since Apr '08
    • Originally posted by Unknown_X:


      well said. i got a WO, whose ego speaks louder than his capability and rank, half the time ar ka liao with us and also will help speak up for us sometimes. but he also talk, eat and add fuel sometimes. how to rate this kind sia.

      Add fuel sometimes is ok, afterall, sometimes must be you all really do something wrong then he want you all to learn. This kind considered good already. If you ever encountered Captain who think since they are going to be Maj soon, therefore they can act like one, or WO who forgot that they are non-commissioned officer, then you know what is call chui. LOL.

  • Stucktoes's Avatar
    167 posts since Apr '08
    • Originally posted by Call4ljw:

      BTW, my office(CAC) got 1 officer, he is 2lt, quite slack de.

      Pes B & above need do reservist right? until old. =.=

      Then he say after 2yrs go medical downgrade then dunnid do reservist. =.=

      What kind of officer is this lol.

      Aiya, NSF mah, same mentality. Even if I excel in BMT to the extent that I become a captain, I also wont want to do reservist if I can choose. Must dig out all your dusty LBV, helmet and stuffs from the storeroom ("Ma! Where you keep my duffel bag ah?!"), must cut hair short short, not worth it la. Haha.

  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    97 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Unknown_X:

      your officer dreaming ah. pes C also need to do NS. heck, i've said many times before in other threads. even saw pes E coming back too. your officer from which unit CAC so cute one?

      SGC(dunno mean what nvm :p)

       

      pes E come back for? o.0

  • Unknown_X's Avatar
    1,353 posts since Jul '04
    • toes: from cpt go maj act big shot kind seen and experienced before. easy to handle la these kind of ppl.

       

      call: sgc means what? share share leh. those pes e came back to do clerical work lor. i see liao i also stunned.

  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    97 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Unknown_X:

      toes: from cpt go maj act big shot kind seen and experienced before. easy to handle la these kind of ppl.

       

      call: sgc means what? share share leh. those pes e came back to do clerical work lor. i see liao i also stunned.

      wait the officer kill me lol.

      BTW, how do officers get to WO?

      if go to MAJ still can go WO meh?

  • Unknown_X's Avatar
    1,353 posts since Jul '04
  • Nikar 3's Avatar
    382 posts since Jan '08
    • i never heard of MAJ become WO, but i got heard of SWO rank becoming MAJ.

      in other words, if i'm not wrong, if your rank is SWO, you can convert to MAJ.

      anyway, so far in my NS life, i've never seen any bad officers. LOL

      all the officers i've seen so far all seem to be role-models, dunno why.

      only the MSG are farked up.

  • Unknown_X's Avatar
    1,353 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by Nikar 3:

      i never heard of MAJ become WO, but i got heard of SWO rank becoming MAJ.

      in other words, if i'm not wrong, if your rank is SWO, you can convert to MAJ.

      anyway, so far in my NS life, i've never seen any bad officers. LOL

      all the officers i've seen so far all seem to be role-models, dunno why.

      only the MSG are farked up.


      lucky! i jealous! lol

  • Rednano's Avatar
    2,080 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Nikar 3:

      i never heard of MAJ become WO, but i got heard of SWO rank becoming MAJ.

      in other words, if i'm not wrong, if your rank is SWO, you can convert to MAJ.

      anyway, so far in my NS life, i've never seen any bad officers. LOL

      all the officers i've seen so far all seem to be role-models, dunno why.

      only the MSG are farked up.


      to be appointed as appointment holders... got system one...
      like some appointment cant find a 2LT to take over, find a 2WO...
      thats y some bmt coys r warrant officer coys...

      e.g. 2LT = 2WO, LTA = 1WO, CPT = MWO, MAJ = SWO.

  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    97 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Nikar 3:

      i never heard of MAJ become WO, but i got heard of SWO rank becoming MAJ.

      in other words, if i'm not wrong, if your rank is SWO, you can convert to MAJ.

      anyway, so far in my NS life, i've never seen any bad officers. LOL

      all the officers i've seen so far all seem to be role-models, dunno why.

      only the MSG are farked up.

      But if you say SWO mean very old le, still want convert to MAJ will look very funny. What about BG,MG,LG?

      PS: I new to army.

  • Unknown_X's Avatar
    1,353 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by Call4ljw:

      But if you say SWO mean very old le, still want convert to MAJ will look very funny. What about BG,MG,LG?

      PS: I new to army.


      they sick of not being saluted at? what about BG MG LG that u wanna know?

  • Nikar 3's Avatar
    382 posts since Jan '08
    • actually, most SWO won't want to convert to MAJ, because SWO is the highest rank in non-commissioned ranks, and SWO this rank is quite sacred and rare cos' not a lot of people can reach it, whereas MAJ is very common.

      anyway, i wonder why SG never have 4-star GEN.

      i think we're the only country on earth without this rank.

  • Rednano's Avatar
    2,080 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Nikar 3:

      actually, most SWO won't want to convert to MAJ, because SWO is the highest rank in non-commissioned ranks, and SWO this rank is quite sacred and rare cos' not a lot of people can reach it, whereas MAJ is very common.

      anyway, i wonder why SG never have 4-star GEN.

      i think we're the only country on earth without this rank.


      pay scale wise also higher for senior WOs than regular officers of equal commissioned officers rank...

      generals rank cannot play... ASEAN politics... comparsion size of armies in each ASEAN countries... we r considere the biggest due to conscription... citizen-soldiers... the rest r relied on regular armies... we want to be seen as a defence force. not a offensive armed forces... when wartime, generals can + 1 star rank on the defence peacetime rank (now)...

  • Call4ljw's Avatar
    97 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Unknown_X:


      they sick of not being saluted at? what about BG MG LG that u wanna know?


      I want to know how people get to that rank.

  • Moderator
    eac's Avatar
    1,390 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by Rednano:


      pay scale wise also higher for senior WOs than regular officers of equal commissioned officers rank...

      generals rank cannot play... ASEAN politics... comparsion size of armies in each ASEAN countries... we r considere the biggest due to conscription... citizen-soldiers... the rest r relied on regular armies... we want to be seen as a defence force. not a offensive armed forces... when wartime, generals can + 1 star rank on the defence peacetime rank (now)...


      even some junior regular commissioned officers have to give MWOs/SWOs some face out of respect when handling some matters with them...

  • Itedino's Avatar
    154 posts since Jun '08
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