Hi guys.. any info on the SBS buses of the early 90s? I could only remember smt like this in my pri sch days..

That's a Volvo B57 that ended up in Ireland as a school bus.

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1279/topics/289870

http://www.dublinbus.cc/wity1993.htm#233419745

I heard there's also a dead B57 deep inside Pasir Laba Camp

http://hk.geocities.com/kmb2e_mk2/bus-info/sbs4700.htm

List of some B57s in Ireland, incomplete list.

http://suhirman.fotopic.net/

Suhirman's fotopic has plenty of old bus photos (eg. Volvo B57, LO2x, LAs, etc. and of course the retired MK2s)

http://donald1852.fotopic.net/c1533532_1.html

Originally posted by sexy girls:

I heard there's also a dead B57 deep inside Pasir Laba Camp

It's been confrimed by people who served at the camp; there's also a Leyland Alantean in there too.

Also, one of our Volvo B57 that ended up in Ireland has been saved by an Irish bus museum (scroll down); note that the bus had it's centre door removed and heating systems installed when it went to Ireland.

Are the B57s still in service in Ireland?

As a kid I hated the B57s, especially when the bus has been running for the whole day, once you touch the engine cover (which is in front) accidentally, it hurts, though I like the simple interior. Luckily 238 got new (ok lah, around 4 or 5 years old) Scanias after the B57s left.

Originally posted by Scania:

As a kid I hated the B57s, especially when the bus has been running for the whole day, once you touch the engine cover (which is in front) accidentally, it hurts, though I like the simple interior. Luckily 238 got new (ok lah, around 4 or 5 years old) Scanias after the B57s left.

What about the other front-engined buses?

Anyway, the last row of seats on the LAs were really hot. Maybe it was due to the radiator being next to it.

BTW, is the air intake manifold of the O405 next to the last row of seats?

Originally posted by iveco:

 

BTW, is the air intake manifold of the O405 next to the last row of seats?

Yes. Its on the left hand side, next to the last row of seats. On the right side is the radiator.

I kind of like the B57, only because of the good looking lights and the big radiator in front. Well its not that big (not like a Scania 143 tractor), but it looks very special compared to other buses that were around my area that time like the CRB (to which as a kid compare a bus with or without a radiator in front).

Somehow remember that the B57 have brown color 'PVC' seats and metal hand grips on top of the seat itself.

After they were retired, then the CRB moved in and I moved out of that area to see Mark Three and Atlantean, before the old double decks were too replaced by VO2X buses.

Atlantean buses have this nolstalgic 'grong-grong grong-grong' sound that I think many bus fans of that era will never forget. It is etched so hard in my head that when I see a VO2X, I can imagine hearing that sound and a red color wheel spinning at the back of the bus, inside of the left side engine cover (should be a component of the timing belts). Of course the buses look very different and sound very different.

Hmm..just to clarify besides the MB O305 (SBS2569P) that was used for the "Magic Bus", there was also a MK2 that was used as the "Magic Bus".. is the bus previously regoed as SBS1793P (and then re-reg to YK5257P)? Saw the MK2 fleet info from "SINGAPORE BUSES Vol. 2, SINGAPORE BUS SERVICE, DTS Publishing" (not Danny Chan's Singapore Bus Handbook), which can be found at the Lee Kong Chian Reference Library

By right, YK5257P was subsequently deregistered.

Originally posted by TIB1224Y:

I kind of like the B57, only because of the good looking lights and the big radiator in front. Well its not that big (not like a Scania 143 tractor), but it looks very special compared to other buses that were around my area that time like the CRB (to which as a kid compare a bus with or without a radiator in front).

Somehow remember that the B57 have brown color 'PVC' seats and metal hand grips on top of the seat itself.

After they were retired, then the CRB moved in and I moved out of that area to see Mark Three and Atlantean, before the old double decks were too replaced by VO2X buses.

Atlantean buses have this nolstalgic 'grong-grong grong-grong' sound that I think many bus fans of that era will never forget. It is etched so hard in my head that when I see a VO2X, I can imagine hearing that sound and a red color wheel spinning at the back of the bus, inside of the left side engine cover (should be a component of the timing belts). Of course the buses look very different and sound very different.

I remember so vividly the pneumocyclic gearbox the Leylands used... lovely loud roaring noises that strangely, I find it soothing to my ears.

Originally posted by iveco:

What about the other front-engined buses?

Anyway, the last row of seats on the LAs were really hot. Maybe it was due to the radiator being next to it.

Sad to say, the B57 was the only front engined model I remembered.

Agree to the Atlantean one. The closest right now is the Lances and badly maintained VO2xes.

i have army frens informing me of a LA and B57 in pasir laba camp. so glad they are still ummmm half alive. i dun think the poor chaps can move tho.

ZYX

Originally posted by Scania:

Sad to say, the B57 was the only front engined model I remembered.

Agree to the Atlantean one. The closest right now is the Lances and badly maintained VO2xes.

lols..

On the other hand,
I grew up with the OFs..

Originally posted by TIB1224Y:

Atlantean buses have this nolstalgic 'grong-grong grong-grong' sound that I think many bus fans of that era will never forget. It is etched so hard in my head that when I see a VO2X, I can imagine hearing that sound and a red color wheel spinning at the back of the bus, inside of the left side engine cover (should be a component of the timing belts). Of course the buses look very different and sound very different.

Not forgetting that the bus will always jerk whenever it changes gear...

that is because the way the gearbox works is very close to a mannual bus ones...

As for me i grew up on vikings and guy Victories

ZYX

Originally posted by ZYX2005:

that is because the way the gearbox works is very close to a mannual bus ones...

As for me i grew up on vikings and guy Victories

ZYX

I think the LO2Xes also had pneumocyclic trannies. The acceleration sound like manual gearbox.

Originally posted by sBs_boy:

lols..

On the other hand,
I grew up with the OFs..

Some of the OF1417s had NZMB body, like the B57s.

Originally posted by iveco:

I think the LO2Xes also had pneumocyclic trannies. The acceleration sound like manual gearbox.

The Leyland Olympians for SBS used the Leyland Hydracyclic gearbox. The Hydracyclic was developed from the Pneumocyclic, Leyland's established air operated gearbox. For more info on the Hydracyclic, refer to the article posted in the link below. There's also info on the Leyland TL11 engine.

 http://www.brindale.co.uk/ach/prv_site/leyland_titan.htm

Originally posted by sBs_boy:

Not forgetting that the bus will always jerk whenever it changes gear...

The 1978-82 vintage (red seats) Atlanteans were always 'flatchanging' during their final years and it was quite nasty (but fun). The 84-86 ones (blue seats) were a bit better but I still call them the "Rock and Roll Bus".

Originally posted by iveco:

Some of the OF1417s had NZMB body, like the B57s.

Yes and this was a problem when they lost their markings. Some services (eg. 13) run both of them and you can't tell them apart from far. Many times I was happy to see a B57 (my fave) coming only to find out later that its an OF. Same problem for the O305 (fave) and the Atlantean (eg. 147).

the artcile implied that the ECU was a technology marvel invented in the 1970s . i always had the impression thhey were a mid 90s invention. hahaha. Well it just means our dear LAs had ECUs...

ZYX

Originally posted by TIB1224Y:

Atlantean buses have this nolstalgic 'grong-grong grong-grong' sound that I think many bus fans of that era will never forget. It is etched so hard in my head that when I see a VO2X, I can imagine hearing that sound and a red color wheel spinning at the back of the bus, inside of the left side engine cover (should be a component of the timing belts). Of course the buses look very different and sound very different.

Ahh...nostalgic...remember one was on 106, 157 or 61. or something. Can't remember >.< during my childhood days. Can see the belt moving very fast one.

Now the closest you can get to such a belt is the D&T workshop in secondary schools (sanding belt) lol