(SAR 40 Laser LV ABM GL)
For this new version,i think it is single shot.
compare with the SAR 21 40 GL (single shot)i posted on 21.06.2008.
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/213732
http://www.janes.com/events/exhibitions/eurosatory2008/sections/daily/day1/new-singapore-munition-bu.shtml
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New Singapore munition bursts onto world market
Monday, 16 June, 2008
Singapore Technologies Kinetics (Stand B105) is launching on the international market at Eurosatory this year its latest 40mm Low Velocity Air-Burst Munition System (LV ABMS), comprising a fire control system (FCS) and the high explosive (HE) air bursting munition (ABM).
The FCS clips onto a rail on top of the weapon and includes a laser rangefinder with a maximum range of 500m (with an option of 800m), with the operator being provided with a red dot for aiming purposes.
The 40 x 46mm ABM is fired from current in-service 40mm low velocity (LV) grenade launchers such as the CIS 40GL and US M203, which are installed under the barrel of 5.56mm assault rifles to enable high value targets to be neutralised.
Each HE ABM is fitted with an advanced programmable time based fuze that is not armed until it is 14-28m from the weapon and enables the projectile to be detonated above the target for maximum effect.The maximum range is 400m and the ABM features a self-destruct fuze to reduce the number of dud rounds on the battlefield.
Development and testing of the 40mm LV ABMS are complete and production can commence as soon as orders are placed. STK also manufactures a complete family of 40mm high velocity ammunition as well as a 40mm automatic grenade launcher and a 40mm Light Weight Automatic Grenade Launcher (AGL) with an ABM FCS.
products:
http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/listing.aspx?pdtypeid=1
THIS, I like. =D
how much is it going to WEIGHT ?
assuming that the SAR is already 4.4 ? ... That is gonna be 5 ? Omg. Anyway, what's at the front of the scope? And erm, where the LAD?
And if i am not wrong ... SAF is having this boulder very very very soon ...
The correct thread should be:
1.Any comparables?
2.Who are the partners?
read this
Metal Storm And ST Kinetics Successfully Fires Jointly-developed High Explosive Stacked Rounds
Singapore, 20 February 2006 - Metal Storm Limited and Singapore Technologies Kinetics (ST Kinetics) are pleased to announce the successful firing of a range of jointly-developed, stacked configuration low velocity 40 mm electrically ignited munitions (EIM). The firings included high explosive (HE) munitions; enhanced blast explosive (EBX) munitions and air burst munitions (ABM). Less than lethal (LTL) munitions development will be undertaken in the future.
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/314943
Pl take this rifle--mounted version as a warm up weapon for
SSW.
Squad Support Weapon - A Dual Calibre Weapon With More Bang For The Buck
Singapore, 23 February 2004
http://www.stengg.com/pressroom/press_releases_read.aspx?paid=586
above
http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2003fuze/buckley.pdf
above
http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2003fuze/buckley.pdf
2003 47th Annual Fuze Conference „Enhancing Weapon Performance“
New Orleans, LA – April 8-10, 2003
40 MM x 53 AIR BURST MUNITION
FOR AUTOMATIC GRENADE LAUNCHERS
Good stuff.Worth to read.
http://www.myspace.com/Modules/Search/Pages/Search.aspx?q=related:www.dtic.mil/ndia/2005garm/tuesday/bradick.pdf&t=208,
like those fake guns in video game LOL
ABM is good to hit targets :
VISION KILLERS--possible tank/APC killers
Aim.Set the distance.Fire.Observe.
Set the grenade explode in front of sights of tank/APC etc.
Remember the most effective distance to explode
in front of the sights.
If u can destroy their sights,sooner or later,they will open
their hatch.Then fire few more at top of their heads!!
If they dunt open hatch,fire more towards the observation
holes.Tungsten Balls may make its way inside the tank,
depending the structure of the tank.
Check the structures of possible tank/APC SAF amy encounter.
Dunt waste ABM.It may save your ass.
look at p 9 of http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2003fuze/buckley.pdf
what is the generator?
Body
Tungsten Balls----will get the jobs done.
ETM
Generator
S&A
Explosive Chain
Explosive
If u master the skill of firing ABM and facing a tank alone,
U still has a chance .
They can hide but cant run away
ABM can hit targets
at roof(they can see u ,but u cant see them)
behind wall,
inside trench
around the corner etc
Both the HV and LV ABMS munitions are particularly suited for engagements in the urban environment where targets are frequently located on rooftops, behind walls or windows beyond the reaches of conventional ammunition.
"The ST Kinetics' Low Velocity Air-Burst Munitions System (LV ABMS) is a highly effective solution for the urban environment, empowering the warfighter with the ability to deliver precise payload effects, previously not available at the soldier level. Its introduction is a testimony to ST Kinetics' continued leadership in total 40mm solutions, offering the widest range of 40mm payloads and launchers." ~ SEW Chee Jhuen, President, ST Kinetics
http://www.stengg.com/pressroom/press_releases_read.aspx?paid=1258
with ABM.U have a good chance to survive.
But not so near lah...
it looks like ABM can be fitted into a 155 mm shell.
The system has already attracted interest from other countries.
The technology can also be used in other weapons.
Tan Wee Chye, Programme Manager, DSTA, said: "The same technology can be harvested to give the same kind of firepower and enhanced capability for our foot soldiers in the form of a lower velocity handheld version."
For our forces at sea, the Remotely Operated Ambient Noise Imaging System, or ROMANIS, is an acoustic camera that captures images of silent underwater objects using ambient noise from snapping shrimps in the sea.
http://www.dsta.gov.sg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3481&Itemid=401
of course,SG is not alone in this field.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m307.htm
WoW. Are u suggesting a 40mm ABM from STENGG can kill a PT-91 MBT?
I doubt the tank is gonna just sit there and let you take careful aim with ur 40mm GL to kill its optics.
Its an Air bursting munition, not laser guided 40mm round.... I'll have better luck trying to take out its optics with a Light Fifty, provided the tank is A) Sitting Still, & or B) Not shooting at me.
who's the dude posing?
U can skin the Tiger step by step.
We can afford to fire few more arounds of ABM.
Anyway,ST is one of the top 40 mm grenades producers.
Besides optics,u can destory tank GPMG.
When tankee cant see from inside,they lose the patience.
They will call for reinforcement or come out.
Their weapons is the gun,GPMG and their PWD.--and the tank.
When they lose the gun and GPMG,u just short
of the tank protection.But u have ABM of up to 500--800m range.
u can see the tank,but they may not be able to locate u.
Looks like we are ahead of XM 25
http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/3000/3016.htm
http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=730
There is no news that SAF has ordered this new stuff.
Many guys here repeately says that only SAF would buy ST products.
I dunt think so.Not bad.Why not?
ST is ahead of some countries in some areas.
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ATK's Pioneering Air Bursting Ammunition Technology Selected by U.S. Navy
Contract Win Highlights ATK's Total Gun System Approach
U.S. Marines Will be the First to Receive 30mm Advanced Medium Caliber System
MINNEAPOLIS, Dec. 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Alliant Techsystems (NYSE: ATK) recently received a contract from the U.S. Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane, Indiana, to provide 30mm air bursting ammunition for the U.S. Marine's Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle. Under terms of the contract, ATK will provide 1200 rounds within the next six months to the U.S. Navy for qualification tests. The contract contains three production options for deliveries of 30mm air bursting ammunition. This is the first ever production contract for air bursting ammunition and highlights ATK's role as a gun-system provider of choice.
"Air bursting technology is the future of medium-caliber ammunition and we are proud to be selected as the system provider of this important new warfighting capability," said Mark DeYoung, President, ATK Ammunition Systems Group. "Air bursting technology will extend the life of today's gun systems by significantly enhancing their effectiveness and it will play a central role in the gun systems of tomorrow such as the U.S. Army's Future Combat System."
ATK's air bursting technology is an affordable, operator-friendly design that can be scaled down and integrated into other medium-caliber gun systems such as the 25mm M242 Chain Gun. The M242 is currently deployed on the Bradley Fighting Vehicle and Light Armored Vehicle-25.
Key components of the system include ATK's Mk44 Chain Gun, a gun control unit with an inductive fuze setter; a fire control system and the 30mm x 173mm Air Bursting Munition. Milliseconds before the round is chambered, the sophisticated fuze is programmed to explode at the precise range selected by the gunner -- who uses an advanced laser range finder to determine the distance. Once the round exits the gun, the ATK-designed fuze technology computes the projectile's revolutions and velocity to determine the exact moment of detonation.
The first platform scheduled to incorporate ATK's 30mm air bursting ammunition will be the U.S. Marines Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle, which is equipped with ATK's Mk44 Gun System. Other Mk44 platforms include the U.S. Navy's San Antonio Class LPD-17 amphibious ship, numerous NATO armored and ground combat vehicles, and potentially an up-gunned Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Work on the contract will be performed by ATK at facilities in Plymouth, Minnesota, Rocket Center, West Virginia, and Radford, Virginia.
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ST alreday capable in mass production.Yankee is still in testing.
Dec 15, 2006
Contract Win Highlights ATK's Total Gun System Approach
U.S. Marines Will be the First to Receive 30mm Advanced Medium Caliber System
MINNEAPOLIS, Dec. 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Alliant Techsystems (NYSE: ATK) recently received a contract from the U.S. Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane, Indiana, to provide 30mm air bursting ammunition for the U.S. Marine's Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle. Under terms of the contract, ATK will provide 1200 rounds within the next six months to the U.S. Navy for qualification tests. The contract contains three production options for deliveries of 30mm air bursting ammunition. This is the first ever production contract for air bursting ammunition and highlights ATK's role as a gun-system provider of choice.
"Air bursting technology is the future of medium-caliber ammunition and we are proud to be selected as the system provider of this important new warfighting capability," said Mark DeYoung, President, ATK Ammunition Systems Group. "Air bursting technology will extend the life of today's gun systems by significantly enhancing their effectiveness and it will play a central role in the gun systems of tomorrow such as the U.S. Army's Future Combat System."
ATK's air bursting technology is an affordable, operator-friendly design that can be scaled down and integrated into other medium-caliber gun systems such as the 25mm M242 Chain Gun. The M242 is currently deployed on the Bradley Fighting Vehicle and Light Armored Vehicle-25.
Key components of the system include ATK's Mk44 Chain Gun, a gun control unit with an inductive fuze setter; a fire control system and the 30mm x 173mm Air Bursting Munition. Milliseconds before the round is chambered, the sophisticated fuze is programmed to explode at the precise range selected by the gunner -- who uses an advanced laser range finder to determine the distance. Once the round exits the gun, the ATK-designed fuze technology computes the projectile's revolutions and velocity to determine the exact moment of detonation.
The first platform scheduled to incorporate ATK's 30mm air bursting ammunition will be the U.S. Marines Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle, which is equipped with ATK's Mk44 Gun System. Other Mk44 platforms include the U.S. Navy's San Antonio Class LPD-17 amphibious ship, numerous NATO armored and ground combat vehicles, and potentially an up-gunned Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Work on the contract will be performed by ATK at facilities in Plymouth, Minnesota, Rocket Center, West Virginia, and Radford, Virginia.
ATK is a $3.4 billion advanced weapon and space systems company employing approximately 15,000 people in 22 states. News and information can be found on the Internet at http://www.atk.com/ .
When tankee cant see from inside,they lose the patience.
They will call for reinforcement or come out.
Their weapons is the gun,GPMG and their PWD.--and the tank.
When they lose the gun and GPMG,u just short
of the tank protection.But u have ABM of up to 500--800m range.
u can see the tank,but they may not be able to locate u.
Wow. Wow and Wow! You never fail to impress me with your infinite wisdom and superhuman/lion abilities.
500-800m, you can not only hit an MBT with an air bursting munition, you can even intentionally target their GPMG!
Unbelieveable!
Looks like we are ahead of XM 25
LOL, who are you trying to kid?
Are you saying that turing out a crappier piece of equipment is better as long as you come out with this faster?
Not all of our troops are equipped with the SAR-21, despite it being nearly 10 years since in was introduced, how much longer do you think it'll take to implement this?
And worse, one we commit to this, the Yanks will finally finish maturing their own technology, which was twice as effective as ours to begin with.
Wow. Wow and Wow! You never fail to impress me with your infinite wisdom and superhuman/lion abilities.
500-800m, you can not only hit an MBT with an air bursting munition, you can even intentionally target their GPMG!
Unbelieveable!
No surprise he managed to screw it up again, he obviously never even went up to a range an fired a 40mm grenade before, let along see a tank at 500-800 meters.
At 500-800 meters hitting a GPMG sized target is challanging even with a sniper rifle, you are talking about a moving target with a slow moving 40mm round. A tank is not going to just sit there and wait for you to plink them. This is why people are switching to smarter, smaller and faster rounds. For some reason lionnoisy seems to think that us sticking to a format of vietnam-era 40mm that is becoming outdated something to toot about... which is laughable.
No surprise lionnoisy messes it up again, given he actually tried to impose inline skates for soldiers.
ST alreday capable in mass production.Yankee is still in testing.
The Yank system is still under evaluation because it is not only far more advanced then ours, but also far more capable.
But apparently you do not want to go into battle with the best weapon, but with the "world's first"... which isn't even the world's first to begin with.
Case in point, our SAR-21 was the "world's first" AR with a built in LAD, but other countries simply used their common sense, waited for technologies to mature, and aquired P-rail systems as standard allowing their ARs to mount more advanced sights and targeting systems then our SAR-21.
Now how is that smart? Only by your logic.
If the Yanks rushed and made the MBT 70 without waiting for technology to mature we would not have gotten the M-1 Abrams, which is a far superior tank.
Simple, you wait when you know that a new generation of technologies are coming to take the best use of it. 40mm grenades are reaching the limit of their performance envelope, the Yanks were right to develop and explore other alternatives that are up to 500 percent more effective.
We on the other hand, are running into a performance dead end with the 40mm.