F1 and our future replied by Mummified @ Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:58:12 +0800

Mummified — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:58:12 +0800

Originally posted by googoomuck:

The people for democracy will not have any support for a political party that is practising the kleptocractic form of governance.

How can the opposition hinder demorcracy?

agree .

1. you said (When is the last time CSJ offered a economic plan?)

for your info ray245, have you made any studies into the history before saying that the opposition did not come up with any good plans? If you did or you can read AndrewPKyap's thread he did mention of the garmen rejecting the proposal and later had to implement because theirs didnt work.

2. you said (You talk about democracy, yet at the same time, you don't allow people with different opinions to exist or be heard, and label them being paid by the government.Is it wrong to critise the opposition? Come on, one main reason why singapore's democracy cannot progress is due to the people who treat the opposition as the solution to solve everything.)

I quoted the Bear and replied him wat does he know cos obviously he doesnt know wat is politics.. if the opposition have the power of media will they need to go through that extent to make ppl notice and hear about them? Do you think they will be appearing on national tv so that ppl will hear them giving a speech? Obviously he doesnt know what is civil disobedience....

3. you said (Is it wrong to say CSJ isn't talking about real issues that can impact singapore to a large extend?)

he did and got sued for it. its obvious i need not state which google is your best fren

4. you said(You can't win a debate by simply saying your plan sucks, hence I will win. No, you win by saying your contribution can be better.)

When may i ask have you been given the chance to hear his plan? or should i ask will you ever get to?

5. you said (When opposition supporters here wants to destroy the PAP completely, of course the PAP will be threatened by an angry, mindless mob. And yet at the same time, when a person ask the opposition to concentrate more on the issues, you dare to attack him as a paid person?)

Mindless mob? lol if you know who you are calling mindless mobs ...... do you know not the opposition opposing are not just sg but alot of ppl in the world? just that they are outside of sg can cannot interfere unless sg citizens choose to help themselves.

6. You said (If anything, it is opposition supporters who is the one hindering democracy in singapore.)

when did he come to sg? LOL

F1 and our future replied by TIB1062Y @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:49:24 +0800

TIB1062Y — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:49:24 +0800

Originally posted by mrsmall:

ya lor

Utilities and Singtel wan to cover back their loss

very dirty

fuel price went down

petrol stations reduce their price abit

but this transports - still they increase

taxi still chrge diesel surcharge 30cents

very very dirty

our bonus time is very near

now this gahman announce

- ecconomy down here and there

- so may be expect retrenches & pay cuts

- next year still worst

very very very dirty

Very SAD.... I am also a Singtel user!!

I have a formula for this...

Formula 1 (F1) = Inconvenience for public transport + Incurred losses for some companies

Substitude F1 into the formula below:

Singaporeans = F1 * (Transport fare + Retrenchment + Probability of getting bonus)

F1 and our future replied by TIB1062Y @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:38:31 +0800

TIB1062Y — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:38:31 +0800

Originally posted by youyayu:

last time i give shit about F1.. now i really love it

Same here...

F1 and our future replied by alwaysdisturbed @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:32:54 +0800

alwaysdisturbed — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:32:54 +0800

Originally posted by noahnoah:

soon gahman will have more ideas coming up also

o yes increase school fees!!

o yes cut pay )ok thats already on the way!!

o yes increase rental in geylang and joo chiat area

o yes less budget for army spending ( that one i love it)

pay cut, excluding ministers'.

F1 and our future replied by googoomuck @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:45:06 +0800

googoomuck — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:45:06 +0800

Originally posted by ray245:

Are you paid by the oppostion members?

You talk about democracy, yet at the same time, you don't allow people with different opinions to exist or be heard, and label them being paid by the government.

Is it wrong to critise the opposition? Come on, one main reason why singapore's democracy cannot progress is due to the people who treat the opposition as the solution to solve everything.

Is it wrong to say CSJ isn't talking about real issues that can impact singapore to a large extend?

When is the last time CSJ offered a economic plan?

You can't win a debate by simply saying your plan sucks, hence I will win. No, you win by saying your contribution can be better.

You talk about politics, yet at the same time, the majority of people here is the type of people who can get brainwashed by political attack ads.

Attacks ads like saying someone is a terrorist and so on. Hell, you will be throwing support one party simply because they propose more tax cuts without thinking of what will happen next. Just like how McCain offer his tax cuts...

When opposition supporters here wants to destroy the PAP completely, of course the PAP will be threatened by an angry, mindless mob. And yet at the same time, when a person ask the opposition to concentrate more on the issues, you dare to attack him as a paid person?

If anything, it is opposition supporters who is the one hindering democracy in singapore.

The people for democracy will not have any support for a political party that is practising the kleptocractic form of governance.

How can the opposition hinder demorcracy?

F1 and our future replied by ray245 @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:42:36 +0800

ray245 — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:42:36 +0800

Originally posted by Mummified:

wat do u know? are you a high paid officer or a disillusioned peasant?

Are you paid by the oppostion members?

You talk about democracy, yet at the same time, you don't allow people with different opinions to exist or be heard, and label them being paid by the government.

Is it wrong to critise the opposition? Come on, one main reason why singapore's democracy cannot progress is due to the people who treat the opposition as the solution to solve everything.

Is it wrong to say CSJ isn't talking about real issues that can impact singapore to a large extend?

When is the last time CSJ offered a economic plan?

You can't win a debate by simply saying your plan sucks, hence I will win. No, you win by saying your contribution can be better.

You talk about politics, yet at the same time, the majority of people here is the type of people who can get brainwashed by political attack ads.

Attacks ads like saying someone is a terrorist and so on. Hell, you will be throwing support one party simply because they propose more tax cuts without thinking of what will happen next. Just like how McCain offer his tax cuts...

When opposition supporters here wants to destroy the PAP completely, of course the PAP will be threatened by an angry, mindless mob. And yet at the same time, when a person ask the opposition to concentrate more on the issues, you dare to attack him as a paid person?

If anything, it is opposition supporters who is the one hindering democracy in singapore.

F1 and our future replied by Mummified @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:24:11 +0800

Mummified — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:24:11 +0800

Originally posted by the Bear:

ya know what?

don't fricken politicise everything...

that's what the CSJ and his idiots do.. everything is political to them and somehow, they will twist it into an attack on the MIW... they sully everything...

to such a stage where people forget the real issues.. and when the real issues come up, people are desensitised by the barking and bleating of this bunch of whining charlatans...

sometimes, the best which CSJ can do for the people is to STFU

sheesh...

wat do u know? are you a high paid officer or a disillusioned peasant?

F1 and our future replied by reyes @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:18:36 +0800

reyes — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:18:36 +0800

next season F1 will be worse!when the full impact of F1 will start to hit.

singapore is going to lose hundred of millions for next season. when the turn up rate drop, tourist revene down, but hundred of million still need to be spend!

I think it time to join national socialist. Coz capitalism just grew corruption and greed!!

F1 and our future replied by reyes @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:14:06 +0800

reyes — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:14:06 +0800

Hike Fuhrer,

How can they ask you to be an Usher, it is a total disgrace to our Fourth Reich. We must stand up to our National Socialist Party!!! Revolt!! revolt!! revolt!!

i type wrongly, my relative working in LTA was ask to help in the F1 usher. Not me.

Four Reich reputation still intact!!

Heil Hitler!!

F1 and our future replied by likedatosocan @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:36:14 +0800

likedatosocan — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:36:14 +0800

Originally posted by mistyblue:

Got hype,... hike up electricity cost by 21% immediately ... maybe to cover the cost of running F1 loh or to put something nice before deliver bad news that basic necessities which the govt (so cleverly privatized in the name of lower costs) will increase now increase and continue to increase yearly and we all can do shit about it but suck thumb and kao peh. And who is still in power? Who will forever be in power?

For purpose of discussion, assuming your hypothesis is true about the reason for the HUGE hike, after sometime when the hike has recovered the sunk cost, will the HIKE be reversed ?

I am a simple man, but even I know the answer.

The only question to ask ourselves is WHY MAJORITY is so rich they have no objection?

I personally find this hike extremely tough to swallow.

I personally believe many many more much more hikes are lined up already. But then, that is just me cos the majority have no problem.

F1 and our future replied by noahnoah @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:12:59 +0800

noahnoah — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:12:59 +0800

soon gahman will have more ideas coming up also

o yes increase school fees!!

o yes cut pay )ok thats already on the way!!

o yes increase rental in geylang and joo chiat area

o yes less budget for army spending ( that one i love it)

F1 and our future replied by mrsmall @ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:05:26 +0800

mrsmall — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:05:26 +0800

Originally posted by charlize:

Hanor, immediately after the F1 race, you get news of price increase from singtel on their fix lines.

ya lor

Utilities and Singtel wan to cover back their loss

very dirty

fuel price went down

petrol stations reduce their price abit

but this transports - still they increase

taxi still chrge diesel surcharge 30cents

very very dirty

our bonus time is very near

now this gahman announce

- ecconomy down here and there

- so may be expect retrenches & pay cuts

- next year still worst

very very very dirty

F1 and our future replied by charlize @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:17:46 +0800

charlize — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:17:46 +0800

Hanor, immediately after the F1 race, you get news of price increase from singtel on their fix lines.

F1 and our future replied by googoomuck @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:10:20 +0800

googoomuck — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:10:20 +0800

Singapore's F1 event was a flop.

Hotles had to slash prices to draw in the fans. The revenue tax from the hotels for the event was greatly reduced. Even with the price slash, only a few hotels were able to enjoy an almost full occupancy rate. Did Ong Beng Seng laugh all the way to the bank?

How will PAP recoup the cost of holding the race?

Indirectly taxing the people again.

F1 and our future replied by angel7030 @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:56:12 +0800

angel7030 — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:56:12 +0800

Originally posted by reyes:

my relative who is working in LTA was ask to help me to become road usher during F1. that how cheapo the the govt has treated its own civil servants.

usher should be done by TP, or members from the organiser who reaps in millions of advertising revenue but asking civil servants to do it FOC.

man... F1 can be better use on me.. Fuhrer Nos 1.

Heil Mein Fuhrer!!

Hike Fuhrer,

How can they ask you to be an Usher, it is a total disgrace to our Fourth Reich. We must stand up to our National Socialist Party!!! Revolt!! revolt!! revolt!!

F1 and our future replied by SBS7484P @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:54:52 +0800

SBS7484P — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:54:52 +0800

Originally posted by angel7030:

you mean yr keyboard F1 button ar??

F1 and our future replied by angel7030 @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:52:44 +0800

angel7030 — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:52:44 +0800

Originally posted by youyayu:

last time i give shit about F1.. now i really love it

you mean yr keyboard F1 button ar??

F1 and our future replied by youyayu @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:49:27 +0800

youyayu — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:49:27 +0800

last time i give shit about F1.. now i really love it

F1 and our future replied by mistyblue @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:46:32 +0800

mistyblue — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:46:32 +0800

Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:

i already had that thoughts when they acquired the contract.

theres no hype for poor people like me already struggling to pay our daily expenses.

Got hype,... hike up electricity cost by 21% immediately ... maybe to cover the cost of running F1 loh or to put something nice before deliver bad news that basic necessities which the govt (so cleverly privatized in the name of lower costs) will increase now increase and continue to increase yearly and we all can do shit about it but suck thumb and kao peh. And who is still in power? Who will forever be in power?

F1 and our future replied by reyes @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:33:42 +0800

reyes — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:33:42 +0800

my relative who is working in LTA was ask to help me to become road usher during F1. that how cheapo the the govt has treated its own civil servants.

usher should be done by TP, or members from the organiser who reaps in millions of advertising revenue but asking civil servants to do it FOC.

man... F1 can be better use on me.. Fuhrer Nos 1.

Heil Mein Fuhrer!!

F1 and our future replied by reyes @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:28:00 +0800

reyes — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:28:00 +0800

peep at F1, good lord, can't he afford a ticket for 3 days?? I was there to challenge those race queens

u challenge the race queen about political issues?

u beat them upside down!!

F1 and our future replied by mrsmall @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:47:19 +0800

mrsmall — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:47:19 +0800

F1 and our future

More increase on our electric bill - just happened liao

Our Future - still we need to pay more thats all

Still not clear answer from sggovt for our

fellow citizens in ST forum

haha

wait for our future

F1 and our future replied by pearlie27 @ Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:45:29 +0800

pearlie27 — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:45:29 +0800