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  • O o O's Avatar
    289 posts since Jul '08
    • Almost 1 million Australians now live overseas and those abandoning their homeland are some of the brightest stars born under the Southern Cross.

      According to figures from the Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs, the number of Australians moving overseas on a permanent or long-term basis has grown steadily from 74,000 a year in 1993 to almost 120,000 last year, many of them heading to the commercial hot spots of London, New York, Hong Kong, Tokyo and Frankfurt.

      No one would care if 1 million of Australia's C team abandoned their boring jobs for a new life in Coventry or Kentucky but when almost 70 per cent of those leaving are professionals, managers and administrators, then governments take notice.

      http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/31/1075340890279.html

       

      Reasons for leaving: -

      Better, more flexible employment opportunities outside Australia

      Receiving an overseas job offer or transfer within a multinational company

      Education and study

      Travel and a desire to gain international life experience

      Professional development

      Escaping the high income taxation level in Australia

      Availability of higher income overseas.  

       

      http://www.acci.asn.au/text_files/issues_papers/Emigration/Australians%20Living%20Overseas%20_December%202004_.pdf

  • O o O's Avatar
    289 posts since Jul '08
    • If the brightest stars are leaving australia so can I say that those moving into australia, (excluding those for retirement)  are usually those not so bright ones?

  • hisoka's Avatar
    33,555 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by O o O:

      If the brightest stars are leaving australia so can I say that those moving into australia, (excluding those for retirement)  are usually those not so bright ones?


      actually no indication they are te brightest stars. Professionals, managers and administrators are also mostly middle class (maybe upper midddle but still middle). Anyway nowhere in world are there no pple leaving. It's just a matter of how many.

  • Beautiful951's Avatar
    2,424 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by O o O:

      If the brightest stars are leaving australia so can I say that those moving into australia, (excluding those for retirement)  are usually those not so bright ones?

      Stars can move now can they? Then they must be Honey stars. The tastiest stars in the universe. From the spoon to the mouth. thats all i have to say. from the spoon to the mouth. the same in both. Now I said all i could. want anymore hints?

  • will4's Avatar
    2,947 posts since Oct '05
    • The latest statement on the 1000 local migrated to other countries  giving up their

       citizenship for country like Australia n SE Asian. SE Asian countries normally living

      condition is not that good like in this country.

      Something seem to be really wrong when local gave up their local citizenship for

      SE Asian nationalities.

  • Melbournite's Avatar
    635 posts since Mar '08
    • Originally posted by will4:

      The latest statement on the 1000 local migrated to other countries  giving up their

       citizenship for country like Australia n SE Asian. SE Asian countries normally living

      condition is not that good like in this country.

      Something seem to be really wrong when local gave up their local citizenship for

      SE Asian nationalities.


      well its not maybe the quality of life, i guess taxation is lower in SE asian countries...To add on further , i think they will be treated better by the locals aka SPG...

  • googoomuck's Avatar
    2,048 posts since Feb '06
    • Some Aussies, after having benefited from the country's govt subsidies and other freebies contributed by tax payers,  they don't want to pay it forward.

      It's a shame to the rest of the patriotic Aussies.

  • pigsticker's Avatar
    3,018 posts since Jan '08
  • whiskers's Avatar
    595 posts since May '06
    • one man's meat is another's poison

      Since they are the "brightest star" it will be good that they move arnd, so others can learn frm them.

  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    6,505 posts since Jan '03
    • If the brightest stars are leaving australia so can I say that those moving into australia, (excluding those for retirement)  are usually those not so bright ones?

      Actually it means that those who regard Australia as a greener pasture must really come from a dried out pasture for Australia to be attractive and viable for them.

  • eagle's Avatar
    18,370 posts since Aug '01
    • Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:

      Actually it means that those who regard Australia as a greener pasture must really come from a dried out pasture for Australia to be attractive and viable for them.

      Especially true when Singapore wasn't even mentioned in the article posted by Gazelle

  • reyes's Avatar
    2,121 posts since Feb '04
    • this article dont reflect the whole truth about why australians are moving oversea.

      most of them are being provided with a expatriates package to live overseas. that only show they are working oversea and not really migrating. most still coming back to australia.

       

      i cant imagine ppl migrating to HK except moving to HK just for work.

      australia tax is not as high as some country in europe.

      if they work in UK, i bet their company offer some tax incentives which make sense for them for leave or more money.

       

      i bet there are few millions of americans working overseas does that mean american are not a great country to work in?

       

      i also bet there are less laotians moving oversea. does tat mean laos is a better place to live in?

       

       

  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    6,505 posts since Jan '03
  • redDUST's Avatar
    1,980 posts since Mar '08
    • Originally posted by reyes:

      this article dont reflect the whole truth about why australians are moving oversea.

      most of them are being provided with a expatriates package to live overseas. that only show they are working oversea and not really migrating. most still coming back to australia.

       

      i cant imagine ppl migrating to HK except moving to HK just for work.

      australia tax is not as high as some country in europe.

      if they work in UK, i bet their company offer some tax incentives which make sense for them for leave or more money.

       

      i bet there are few millions of americans working overseas does that mean american are not a great country to work in?

       

      i also bet there are less laotians moving oversea. does tat mean laos is a better place to live in?

       

       


      i agree completely. there is little basis for jumping on a conclusion based on what is reported. as the article stated, the reason for working overseas are multi-fold, but does it imply that none or the mojority are not returning?

      the TS desperation to latch on anything to make a point, only this falls flat completely. better luck next time...

       

       

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,129 posts since Oct '06





    • Many of them are probably in Singapore because like the chief despot said,"Mr Lee said it does not reflect a real picture as the figure includes the incomes of some foreigners with high salaries."


      http://www.todayonline.com/articles/264226.asp


      ...and they then go back home to life in luxury.


      Whereas locals that leave, leave for good and never come back to this expensive hell-hole where all the money is channelled to be controlled by despots.




       

       

  • Fantagf's Avatar
    3,928 posts since Jun '08
    • Post such article bottom line is to defend the despots subtlely.   Fail.    TS can go learn some magic so the next time when he uses new nick again nobody will recognise he is Gazelle, Aelop, Deer hunter, £ Ỉ €ڰ

  • Fantagf's Avatar
    3,928 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by reyes:

      this article dont reflect the whole truth about why australians are moving oversea.

      most of them are being provided with a expatriates package to live overseas. that only show they are working oversea and not really migrating. most still coming back to australia.

       

      i cant imagine ppl migrating to HK except moving to HK just for work.

      australia tax is not as high as some country in europe.

      if they work in UK, i bet their company offer some tax incentives which make sense for them for leave or more money.

       

      i bet there are few millions of americans working overseas does that mean american are not a great country to work in?

       

      i also bet there are less laotians moving oversea. does tat mean laos is a better place to live in?

       

       

      Yeah, right.   I come across a number of aussie expats here.   They return to downunder for home leave or when their contract expire.   None of them I know of give up on Australia and settle down here.   Same goes to friends and relatives who have migrated to Australia, they will not come back to settle down in Singapore.

  • O o O's Avatar
    289 posts since Jul '08
  • O o O's Avatar
    289 posts since Jul '08
    • Originally posted by googoomuck:

      Some Aussies, after having benefited from the country's govt subsidies and other freebies contributed by tax payers,  they don't want to pay it forward.

      It's a shame to the rest of the patriotic Aussies.


      Thats why they say these are the brightest stars isnt it? when they are young and able, they work overseas gain experience, and pay taxes and contribute to overseas economy. And when they are done with working, they come back to Australia with all their millions to enjoy the benefits and subsidies paid by hardworking aussie and Asian immigrants including Singaporeans.  

      Edited by O o O 23 Jul `08, 10:08AM
  • sgdiehard's Avatar
    2,815 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by Fantagf:

      Yeah, right.   I come across a number of aussie expats here.   They return to downunder for home leave or when their contract expire.   None of them I know of give up on Australia and settle down here.   Same goes to friends and relatives who have migrated to Australia, they will not come back to settle down in Singapore.

      The Singaporeans who truely migrated to Australia and any other countries are those who took out their CPF money and gave up singapore citizenship. If they are keeping their CPF money here, or some who keep their singapore passport and just get australian PR... "they will not come back to Singapore", don't speak too soon.

  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    14,129 posts since Oct '06



    • Sure... they might come back, when the dishonorable despots die their slow, lingering, suffering deaths and Singapore become a first world democracy like Australia....




  • O o O's Avatar
    289 posts since Jul '08
    • "Of the 67 853 people who departed permanently in 2005-05, 49.4 per cent were born overseas."

      "A majority of these emigrant groups returned to their country of birth, for example Hong Kong SAR (81.6 per cent), New Zealand (81.2 per cent), Taiwan (77.9 per cent), Greece (76.5 per cent) and the USA (73.3 per cent)"

      "Overwhelmingly, the Australian-born are emigrating to the United Kingdom, New Zealand or the United States. In 2005-06, 53.7 per cent of Australian-born emigrants went to one of these three countries. The next most popular destinations were Singapore (6.3 per cent) and Hong Kong SAR (5.6 per cent)"

       

      http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/05emigration.htm

  • O o O's Avatar
    289 posts since Jul '08
    • Originally posted by reyes:

      this article dont reflect the whole truth about why australians are moving oversea.

      most of them are being provided with a expatriates package to live overseas. that only show they are working oversea and not really migrating. most still coming back to australia.

      i cant imagine ppl migrating to HK except moving to HK just for work.

      australia tax is not as high as some country in europe.

      if they work in UK, i bet their company offer some tax incentives which make sense for them for leave or more money.

      i bet there are few millions of americans working overseas does that mean american are not a great country to work in?

      i also bet there are less laotians moving oversea. does tat mean laos is a better place to live in?

       

      Are you sure the MOST australian living overseas are living on expat package? or are you making your own assumption based on 1 or 2 Australian expats you know who are living in Singapore?  

  • eagle's Avatar
    18,370 posts since Aug '01
  • O o O's Avatar
    289 posts since Jul '08
    • Originally posted by eagle:

      Why did you think I referred to this article? You posted 2 articles, I had referred to the first one.

      Maybe you can't understand singular words. It would really help if you understand how English functions.

      Yes I know

       

      Edited by O o O 23 Jul `08, 11:21AM
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