Will Israel be peaceful in 2008?
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I am unashamedly pro-Israel because I believe she has the right to exist without fear of eradication.
Who is going to finish off Israel? -
You are wrong. The world will be in chaos if George W Bush steps down.The Democrats Party supports the terrorists.No true Christians will support the Democrats Party.Originally posted by bila_prem:Israel will only be peaceful if George W Bush steps down. -
Outside of Israel, The US is the country with the most numbers of Jews. Whether it's Republicans or Democrats, they'll have to ensure that Israel will continue to exist. The Arabs will have to get use to this fact.
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More calls for jihad against Israel, the west and infidel states?
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Even Italian muslim leader sheik palazzi and ex indo blind president called for israel right to exist in mid east..
God has promised them the land yet their arab neighbours are not happy with their own and want that small piece of land. -
I don't think peace would ever prevail in the region
Simple
Majority of the Palestinians don't want peace
Why
As a gesture of goodwill by the Israelis to the Palestinians for peace sake
The former left the Gaza strip in August 2005
So out of gratitude
Most Palestinians elected Hamas, a terrorist organization hell-bent on Israel's destruction, as the ruling party in a democratic election in January 2006.
But its not all
Let me take you guys back many many years ago.
Peel Partition Plan
1919, 1921, 1922, 1929, and 1936 saw Arab violence against Jews expanding in scope and growing in brutality
A commission led by Lord Earl Peel suggested partition.
Let the Jews have their state on the 15% of lands that they have purchased and redeemed.
Let the Arabs have theirs on the remaining 85%.
In 1922 Britain had given all of Palestine EAST of the Jordan river to the emir Abdullah, a kingdom with a majority Palestinian population, Jordan
Technically the 1st Palestinian nation.
When offered their own state in 1937 on 85% of British Mandatory Palestine WEST of the Jordan river
The Arab leadership chose war and terrorism.
This was the "Great Arab Revolt" of 1937-1939. With World War II in the offing, Britain lost no time in brutally crushing the Arab revolt.
After WW2, the UN partitioned Palestine into 2 states, 45:55
With the Jews getting the 55%
Based upon the land ownership and population densities of the two groups,
BUT Negav (the southern desert, crown land largely unpopulated and believed to be worthless) was given to the Jews.
This desert constituted 60% of the Jewish portion.
The Palestinians rejected this plan and initiated the 6-day war
And in 2000, after the failed Middle East Peace Summit at Camp David , Palestinians initiated the 2nd Intifada.
Thrice the Palestinians were granted nationhood
Thrice they rejected nationhood
Thrice they responded with armed aggression.
But most of all, many have been influenced/brainwashed that Jews/Zionists are the bad guys.
Hence. For as long as I live, peace wouldn't come between both parties. -
Unfortunately god is fair. The neighbours are all oil people.Originally posted by googoomuck:The Jews constitute about one percent of the human race. However, their contributions to the world are way out of proportion to their small numbers.
This small group of people has contributed to humanity and modern society in unimaginable, powerful and prominent ways.
They have done all this while fighting the wars perpetrated against them by its Arab “neighbors”.
Even SingaporeÂ’s world-class leaders cannot dream of achieving this. Why does anybody wants to see this small group of people wiped out from the Earth?
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Gates of vienna bells have ring again..this time is not in europe but worldwide 911 is the beginning of a very old war lah
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From what I typed
The Arabs want nothing more than the destruction of Israel
I have a big pile of evidence to support that
Guess you guys could say that I support the existence of Israel as a nation
The Zionists practically turned desert into arable land
1 of the reasons why they have a right to Israel. -
When offered their own state in 1937 on 85% of British Mandatory Palestine WEST of the Jordan river
Of course war, there is no reason for the natives to accept foreigners coming into their land and setting up a state.
The Arab leadership chose war and terrorism.
Imagine foreigners coming to eastern singapore and set up state and we just "accept".
We will fight. Ridiculous not to fight. We will be despised if we did not. -
in other words, you're shamless. and you're a shameless mindless fanatic who only believes without reason.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I am unashamedly pro-Israel because I believe she has the right to exist without fear of eradication.
is that true? -
Originally posted by Catknight:
that's fanatic zionist mindless idiotic retarded imbecile religious judaism for you!
Even Italian muslim leader sheik palazzi and ex indo blind president called for israel right to exist in mid east..
[b]God has promised them the land yet their arab neighbours are not happy with their own and want that small piece of land.[/b]
not true judaism.
there are jews against israel too. israel has no right to exist, as zionism is a curse. -
none of you actually provided an unbiased source. no sources in fact.
provide sources, and chronology of events seem to be ripped off from zionist sites. -
Zionism is a curse but islamism is a blessing in disguise?
Anyway I think both are evil twins that going to end our civilised world if there were any in the first place?
O jersusalem please let no evil in the land -
actually the world has little choice but support Israel...or you prefer suicide kid bombers in your streets?Originally posted by Timmay:From what I typed
The Arabs want nothing more than the destruction of Israel
I have a big pile of evidence to support that
Guess you guys could say that I support the existence of Israel as a nation
The Zionists practically turned desert into arable land
1 of the reasons why they have a right to Israel.
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Of course war, there is no reason for the natives to accept foreigners coming into their land and setting up a state.
So you wanna play this game? huh?
Imagine foreigners coming to eastern singapore and set up state and we just "accept".
We will fight. Ridiculous not to fight. We will be despised if we did not.
If the Palestinians are natives?
Aren't the Jews even more 'native'?
Since they inhabited Israel even earlier than the Arabs?
The first Jews arrived and conquered the land around 1200BC
In AD 135, after putting down the Bar Kochba revolt
The second major Jewish revolt against Rome
Emperor Hadrian renamed "Provincia Judaea" to "Provincia Syria Palaestina"
To destory national claims of Israel to the Israelites
It was named after the long gone Philistines
An enemy of the Israelites who frequently attacked them
A non-arab people
Most Jews were chased away but a minority stayed behind
Thus maintaining a constant presence until the first Arabs invaded around
630AD
So whose the natives?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistine
http://www.palestinefacts.org -
Cos Arabic sites arent unbasised too. End of storyOriginally posted by protonhybrid:none of you actually provided an unbiased source. no sources in fact.
provide sources, and chronology of events seem to be ripped off from zionist sites. -
wow you are twisting LazorLord's words around. But I guess you fit the above description more.Originally posted by protonhybrid:in other words, you're shamless. and you're a shameless mindless fanatic who only believes without reason.
is that true?
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the Arabs in Palestine pre-1948 had themselves to blame..
they sold land to the Jewish merchants as they came into Palestine
the Jews bought the land, yet they dont have the right to reside there? -
none of you actually provided an unbiased source. no sources in fact.
hmm
provide sources, and chronology of events seem to be ripped off from zionist sites.
ok, how about referring to Wikipedia?
If a article is lob-sided
A message like the 1 below would appear right?
"The neutrality of this article is disputed.
Please see the discussion on the talk page.
Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved.
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Not Zionist site right?
Peel Commission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Comission
http://www.passia.org/publications/bookmaps/page1.htm
If you look at the map(2nd link)
You'd noticed that land allocated to the Jews was
way way smaller than the land allocated to the Arabs
But Arabs want all
6-day War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Reactions_to_the_plan
Camp David Accord
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#Aftermath
There you go -
Ancient Pharaoh Temple Discovered Inside Egypt Mosque
If the Arabs were to let a neutral 3rd party contractor refurbish the Al Aksa mosque, ancient artifacts will be unearthed to prove that the early inhabitants were the Jews. -
the Arabs in Palestine pre-1948 had themselves to blame..
Maybe because of this, many Arabs till this day complained that the Jews stole their lands
they sold land to the Jewish merchants as they came into Palestine
the Jews bought the land, yet they dont have the right to reside there? Rolling Eyes
My Malay Muslim friend also complains about Jews stealing Arabs' lands
But did you know that you can only 'steal' something if its something that doesn't belong to you?
Maybe, it could also be due to the 6-day war where Israel occupied Arab land
That Arabs are complaining about the Jews stealing their lands
However
In the war of aggression started by the 7 Arab armies
Namely, Egypt, Jordan,Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Algeria.
Who got their asses kicked
The defender and victim, Israel, who won and occupied new territories
Had and still has a right to occupy these lands
International law is very clear
Had it been the aggressor
Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip would have been illegal
as would all future expansion of Israeli population into these territories.
However, it offered to return the territories to the Arabs in exchange for peace
BUT
They refused
Lands Israel occupied also act as a defence buffer
More so by the fact that it was again attacked in the Yom Kuppur war
where again, Arabs got their asses kicked
As well as against homemade rockets that'll getting more sophisticated
P.S:and chronology of events seem to be ripped off from zionist sites
You're saying as if I just copy and paste whole sale...which isn't true -
Jews and Arabs are semites. They are feuding cousins. Some might say sibling hatred.
The Malays, Chinese, Tamils or English do not have blood ties with them.
But in the discussion, I see only those who are pro-Israel bothered to back up their views with sources or evidence.
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News that CNA will not released :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9LrvkXRQXQ
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Though I dun like euro arrogance, the crowd is also too much